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     Elvis |
While the V-Rod is, almost certainly, the best bike Harley has ever made, it's still a Harley. It's more about styling and looks than performance. Reading these posts, one could mistakingly assume the V-Rod is a straight-line performance machine, but look at these numbers: http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/performancedata/ At 11.31 seconds in the quarter mile, the V-Rod is mediocre. It only beats bikes that you would never consider "fast" bikes. Nothing against the V-Rod, but lets not pretend it's a performance bike. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Blake |
AR15, Can you fill in the following table and post it or email it to me?
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| José_Quiñones |
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| Blackmotorcycle |
Jose, what is that from? | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Ar15ls1 |
Yes Blake, but I cannot do it until this evening. I do not have the numbers with me. As soon as I get home I will get them to you. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Ar15ls1 |
If you look at the hp and torque numbers on the chart ,you can see that the vrod is right up there with the Ducatis and Aprilias. It is not to far behind the rc51 either. If you were to put the vrod motor into the same kind of chassis as these other bikes this cruiser engine would be very competitive. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Blackmotorcycle |
FZ1 At the rear wheel. Stock: Max Power = 126.7 Max Torque = 72.6 Akrapovic Slip-On: Max Power = 129.3 Max Torque = 74.8 Akrapovic Slip-On and Ivan's Kit: Max Power = 134.6 Max Torque = 76.6 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Rick_A |
Well Dyna...puttin' all that money you'd waste on a V-Rod of that caliber into an XB and you could just about have yourself a road going Pro Thunder caliber bike. Sure you'd still get smoked by a lot of massaged import sportbikes, but it'd be a hell of a little brute. Power cruisers just aren't my thing. As far as streetbikes go Buells are outstanding...as perfect as they come IMO. As for a racebike I'm thinking maybe one cylinder and OHC might be more fun  I don't understand all the preoccupation with the biggest and the baddest. As long as I'm having fun I don't care who or what smokes my ride and I. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Dynarider |
But wouldnt it be cool as hell having a 150 hp V-rod with stock appearing, but obviously not stock sounding pipes & absolutley smoke somebody on an R1 or whatever bike? Pull up to the light on your grandpa Harley cruiser & know you are the king of the stoplight wars. Hell I get a kick outta racing the younger guys on their Harleys that have put a couple go fast goodies on them with my Dyna. Its always a trip to see the look on their faces after they get beat by an old guy with his wife on the back of the back of the bike  2 memorable races were me on my Dyna against some kid on a 750 Katana. I smoked him off the line & held him off up to about 80 or so. Granted I dont have to worry about looping my bike, but its all part of the game. And the other one was on my X1 & had a local "club" member on his shovelhead tried to race me. He actually made it a decent race for all of 1st gear. After that it was bye bye shovel in a real hurry. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Bads1 |
The V-ROD is one hell of a bike but there is one bike that wrote the book as far as muscle cruisers are concerned that be the V-MAX fastest production muscle cruiser since 1985.I was also the proud owner of some what modified 1986.3rd gear roasting burnouts without a using a clutch. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Blake |
"I don't understand all the preoccupation with the biggest and the baddest." With most it is probably competitiveness or the love of power and speed. With some it might be an unconcious attempt to compensate for a lack of self confidence. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Blackmotorcycle |
Bads1, I second that. I really don't understand all the hype about the V-Rod. What did they do that hadn't been done before? Lets face it, If Honda had built it, nobody would have noticed. ps, don't flame me. I just never liked the V-Rod that much. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Bads1 |
HEY I like all bikes in any shape or form but the V-MAX is one wonderfully engineered motorcycle.Just like the V-ROD many years of planning conceived in 1977 and put into production in 1985. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Rick_A |
When it comes down to it...I'd rather have a rather stock appearing 120+hp S1  | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Ar15ls1 |
Or even a 120 hp firebolt!!! | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Ken01mp |
"With most it is probably competitiveness or the love of power and speed. With some it might be an unconcious attempt to compensate for a lack of self confidence." lack of self confidence? like a phallical shortcoming?(pardon the pun) i would think you of all people to be the last one to make a statement like that blake. sexual inadequacies and insecurities aside, we as Americans have always pursued the best, biggest, and fastest. thats the way we like it. are we, as motorcycle lovers, supposed to buy some slow, ugly thing, to prove we are confident? if i had it my way, i would have the biggest and the baddest, and i have absolutely nothing to feel insecure about:-D. just thought ild clear the air of that one. Ken | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Dynarider |
120hp firebolt is living on the ragged edge & I doubt very seriously the engine would survive for long, whereas a 120hp V-rod engine is just getting started. And as far as the V-max goes, sure its bad ass. But its also very dated looking & I have never believed that it was a "cruiser". Its a muscle bike pure & simple. Its no different that the Suzuki GS1100E of the early 80's. UJM with an attitude, but certainly not a cruiser. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Blackmotorcycle |
See we agree. We need a 120HP Firebolt! And don't jack the price up to 18K! | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Blackmotorcycle |
Dyna, I don't want the Firebolt with the Sportster based engine. Some Lighter version of the Revolution. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Dynarider |
I think thats what a lot of folks would like to have. Sure you get quite a few who say " I like the engine thats in it just fine", but realistically how many would turn down the same bike if it was offered with a 110-120hp revolution based engine? Plus I bet a whole lot more folks would jump on board & Buell would not be able to keep up with demand. Dealers would not have to work so hard in an attempt to pitch the Buell brand name, the bikes would sell themselves. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Dynarider |
Oh yea, that 110-120hp figure should be rear wheel hp too, not at the crank. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Blake |
Gee Ken, a little defensive are we? Try rereading the first sentence of my post. Surely you know of individuals who, solely for the want of bragging or being able to put down others, cannot resist having the latest mega crotch rocket made. Ever heard of anyone like that? | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Ar15ls1 |
Dynarider, you are exactly right. The problem is hear in the real world all we have is the old "sportster" engine. And you know what, I like it. It is the best air cooled, 2 valve, pushrod engine on a motorcycle today. I would have never thought that HD or Buell could sell a sportster motor that revved to 7500rpm with a warranty. For what it is ,it does its job quite well! | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Ar15ls1 |
Blake did you recieve your email? | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Ken01mp |
point, set, match. i know when ive been beat. still, ive got a really nice (and really fast) 68 firebird, my buell, (of course) and Ford Probe GT, thats also fast (for a probe, for Gods sake) and has a 130 db stereo in it. any of the preceding possescions can be misconstrued as "making up for something." quite frankly, im getting tired of proving girls wrong, yeah, im 20, but im only a man! im not a machine! i just hear it a lot, my apologies for getting riled up, Sir Blake Ken | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Bads1 |
DYNA the Max handles like crap good for one thing straight line speed.And as far as it being a cruiser well it is when I bought brand new in 1986 the brochure listed it as the baddest muscle cruiser on the planet hell they even said it on the TV commercial they did on the bike.And dated!!!!! they sold well for 18 years with very few up grades done.Yamaha is rumored to be restyling as we speak.Hats off to them 18 years is a long time for a Jap bike to go without any big changes. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Ray_Maines |
 1024x768 Hi Res .BMP available if you want it. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Rex |
I think that the vrod motor looks cool,and runs good. I would appreciate it in an S-3 type of frame, etc. I would rather have it in a conventional frame with good handling, than what it is currently in. I do not like how the current v rod feels or rides like. The seat is not comfortable for me, and I cannot stand the legs out front ride. I like a conventional, standard style ride. Not ultra crusier, not ultra sportbike.....but like my current M-2. The bike handles good, and rides good. I think a Vrod motor in that would be cool. REX | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| José_Quiñones |
 2 into 1 pipe, rear sets, bike weight down to 225kg (496 lbs), motor pumped up to 149 hp...... | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Blake |
Someone appears to be having some fun with some breaking news. Looks like a custom V-Rod Sportbike to me.  |
