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Xb12burner
| Posted on Monday, September 19, 2005 - 06:27 pm: |
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But I don't have a factory tool kit for my 04 12R and I can't find it in the search function, what size allen do you use to take the back wheel off? Sorry to post it here but I need to find out quick so that I can get it to the dealer. thanks for the help!! |
Jcbikes
| Posted on Monday, September 19, 2005 - 06:41 pm: |
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The allen to undo the pinch bolt is 3/8" hope this is what you need. I bought it a Sears. As far as unscrewing the axle...??? sorry. |
Cataract2
| Posted on Monday, September 19, 2005 - 06:41 pm: |
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Dave might be able to hook you up. |
Xb12burner
| Posted on Monday, September 19, 2005 - 06:49 pm: |
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Is the tool for the axle itself a special tool, dealer only item? Thats the tool I need, thanks again for the help. |
Metalstorm
| Posted on Monday, September 19, 2005 - 07:10 pm: |
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The tool is basically two nuts welded together via a washer. One end fits inside the hollow axle & you turn the other end with a 7/8 wrench. Unless you can weld a couple nuts together you'll probably need to get one from a dealer or one of our sponsors. |
Midmofirebolt
| Posted on Monday, September 19, 2005 - 07:35 pm: |
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First time we took off the tire(before I figured out that's what the nuts are for) we found a nut that fit inside of it and welded a bolt to it or rather it to the bolt. If you can run to a hardware store, you could get a bolt and a couple of nuts, tighten them together on the bolt and try that. Metalstorm is right though, the nut has to fit a 7/8 wrench. It would be nice if we could always buy nuts and bolts to fit the size of wrenches we have. |
Tomd
| Posted on Monday, September 19, 2005 - 07:40 pm: |
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Hi, If Daves or one of the sponsors can't help you, run down to a local machine shop and ask for a 1 and 1/2 inch length of 7/8" mild steel hex stock, dress up the ends, ask them to put a lump of weld on the center of each flat so it won't slip inside too far and then have them heat treat it like they would a punch. Should work fine. You will double check the size inside the axle before you go making anything right? Tom |
Xb12burner
| Posted on Monday, September 19, 2005 - 07:42 pm: |
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So if I weld two 7/8 nuts together I should be in business? |
Xb12burner
| Posted on Monday, September 19, 2005 - 07:54 pm: |
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Why won't a 7/8 allen work? It should be the correct diameter for the axle right? Or am I looking at this wrong. How does the tool differ from just using an allen of the same size? |
Gentleman_jon
| Posted on Monday, September 19, 2005 - 08:28 pm: |
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I use a 7/8" allen wrench. The long part of the "L" is about six inches long. Cost me $5 somewhere on the internet. A bit more convenient than the tool kit adapter in the shop. Of course you can't put a torque wrench on it, but who needs one of those anyway:-) |
Xb_atw
| Posted on Monday, September 19, 2005 - 08:31 pm: |
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A piece of hex stock should be much cheaper than buying a 7/8ths allen wrench. But an allen wrench would do the trick. |
Metalstorm
| Posted on Monday, September 19, 2005 - 09:17 pm: |
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Wowsers, I didn't even know they made 7/8 allen wrenches. That is good to know. Thanks! I never thought about using a bolt instead of two washers. That's good thinking I love BadWeb. This is the place to be to learn new & improved methods. |
Gowindward
| Posted on Monday, September 19, 2005 - 09:45 pm: |
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http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/product.do?BV_UseBVCookie=Yes&vertical=TOOL&pid=0 0999202000 Let's hear a good ole Tim "The Toolman" Taylor grunt! |
Metalstorm
| Posted on Monday, September 19, 2005 - 09:49 pm: |
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AR ARRRR Oooooh! |
Midmofirebolt
| Posted on Monday, September 19, 2005 - 09:58 pm: |
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The nice thing about using the tool or a bolt and nuts is that you can use anything you want on it, socket, box end wrench, hell, a pipe wrench if that's all you got. I couldn't find a socket or wrench the other day, and almost used a 4-way tire iron on it(I figured out it didn't have to come off). I'm sure the hex stock would work the same way. I like the solid nuts because I can't destroy them and they're always with the bike. That way I can work on it anywhere I need or want to. |
Midmofirebolt
| Posted on Monday, September 19, 2005 - 10:04 pm: |
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So that's what people have been twisting their axles in half with, huh. So how long does it take to get an axle out with an impact wrench anyway? |
Pushrodpete
| Posted on Tuesday, September 20, 2005 - 12:13 am: |
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Try Ace Hardware. I just bought a 12mm allen wrench to remove the front wheel from my (Jap) bike, so I'd assume they have the more common 7/8". Cost 5 bucks. Then take a Dremel and cut off two 1-inch-long sections from the handle end. Bingo! Two axle bits for next to nothing that can be used with a torque wrench. Beats the Sears thing at $50... |
Daves
| Posted on Tuesday, September 20, 2005 - 08:11 am: |
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If you can't find or make one I can get you fixed up. |
Thin_air
| Posted on Tuesday, September 20, 2005 - 08:53 am: |
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Take two 7/8 nuts and thread onto a bolt that fits the thread. Weld two nuts together, LEAVE the bolt in place. Now you have a nut small enough to to put your torque wrench on. By the way, check your tool bag after it comes from the dealer. My bike was in for a tire and the bastards took my tool (it was there when I dropped it off). Thats the bad news, the good news is that they will sell you another for about 30 bucks, that way the next guy that works on your bike can get his new Buell wheel removal tool too! |
S1lightning
| Posted on Tuesday, September 20, 2005 - 10:23 pm: |
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BASTARDS! |
Xb12burner
| Posted on Tuesday, September 20, 2005 - 11:12 pm: |
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I got a 7/8 allen from work and it did the trick for getting the wheel off. I think the stand that I rigged up (old spool style stand, cut off u shaped bit that fits spool, made new larger u-shaped bit filled with teflon to fit around bottom of swing-arm) kind of got in the way. With front sprocket cover off, lower belt guard off, pulley off and axle out I still had a heck of a time getting the wheel out. But I don't think that I had to twist or bend the belt, so it should still be ok. I can't believe you have to take all that stuff off just to remove the back wheel. New Conti Road Attacks here I come!! |
Jasonxb12s
| Posted on Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 12:33 am: |
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Yeah, Take your tool bag out before service..I was conveniently missing my nuts when I got mine back for the stator replacement. They did put a battery diode cap in it's place though. Cunts! |
Madbandito
| Posted on Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 04:17 pm: |
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quote"I was conveniently missing my nuts when I got mine back for the stator replacement" Wouldn't you notice someone taking these? |
Xb12burner
| Posted on Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 05:55 pm: |
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I don't think that missing nuts would be convenient at all. But that's just me... |
Midmofirebolt
| Posted on Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 07:42 pm: |
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Yeah, I'll have to remember that next time it's in. I like my nuts. |