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Justice
Posted on Saturday, August 13, 2005 - 08:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I only have a few miles on these tires, but I find them a little slow steering.
Has anybody else noticed this?
Will they change with more miles?
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Buellman39
Posted on Saturday, August 13, 2005 - 09:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

These things stick to the road like peanut butter on the roof of your mouth.
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Lpd22
Posted on Saturday, August 13, 2005 - 12:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I love mine. I have about 1,500 miles on them. And they are the best tires I have tried.
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Gentleman_jon
Posted on Saturday, August 13, 2005 - 12:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I didn't find them to be slow turning compared to the original Dunlop 207's which is what I assume you have replaced them with.
You might want to review your suspension settings, and switch to the Shawn Higbee aggressive settings which have been posted here many times.
Overall, I have found them to be a great tire, longer lasting, better gripping and excellent handling.
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Rsh
Posted on Saturday, August 13, 2005 - 03:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The "Powers" stick like glue but I have not found a chassis/suspension setup that gets the XB to handle like it did with the Sportec M1's. I will have to get a little more serious and measure the Michelin tire diameters and adjust accordingly to find a solution.
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M1combat
Posted on Saturday, August 13, 2005 - 03:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think that's exactly what you'll need to do rsh.
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Nuerburgringer
Posted on Monday, August 15, 2005 - 04:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The Metzeler/Pirelli was very good at neutralizing the XB's tendency to "stand up" during trail-braking. How are the Michelin's handling characteristics in that regard?
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Justice
Posted on Monday, August 15, 2005 - 04:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

O.k. I made some suspension changes and they feel alot better now. Much more confidence inspiring than the D207.
Thanks Jon for the advise on the Shawn Higbee settings.
As far as reducing the tendancy to stand up while trail braking, I couldn't tell ya. I've been so conditioned by the D207s that I might never trail brake again. I'll give it a try tonight and let you know.

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Gentleman_jon
Posted on Monday, August 15, 2005 - 04:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I believe that the "Stand up while braking in a corner" problem is very much reduced with the Pilot Powers, if not eliminated.
I had one such incident with my Dunlop 207's. Wasn't pretty.
I haven't really had to try stomping on the brakes in the middle of a corner since I got my Powers because they really give one the confidence to keep on leaning when a corner tightens. I do like to do a bit of trail braking sometimes though, and I haven't seen any tendency to stand up, but as I said, I haven't really grabbed a great big old handful of brakes, ( thank goodness:-)/
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Nuerburgringer
Posted on Monday, August 15, 2005 - 05:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've been using Metzeler and Pirelli since '03, primarily due to their very neutral handling characteristics on the track. There are certain tire shapes that wreak havoc on the Buell's geometry for some reason, and Metz/Pirelli have been good that way. But I'm very tempted by the new Michelin line; merely reluctant to take the plunge until I've heard some feedback from other track riders. I guess it could take a while, since the new line is so new.
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Justice
Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2005 - 01:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I went for a nice "spirited" ride tonight. Hit some good twisties. I finally got the courage to do some trail braking and touched the brake a few times mid-corner. I can now say the tendency to stand up that the D207s exhibited is gone. However like Jon, I didn't grab a whole handful of brake.
I really like these Michelin Pilot Powers. From what I've experieced so far, I think I'll be getting another set when these are cooked.
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Dagwood
Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2005 - 10:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sure like my PIRELLIS!!
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Glitch
Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2005 - 10:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I might never trail brake again.
Good on ya!
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