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Tpoppa
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2005 - 04:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have a 2003 XB9.

Do I need a dealer only Buell Digital Tech tool to check the timing or is this something I can buy for myself?
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Wyckedflesh
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2005 - 04:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You can check it yourself, do a search on the Xboard for "timing" as it was presented in a thread awhile back. It involves a trigger light and a couple of connections. I just am not in a condition to try and describe it at the moment with the change in my meds this afternoon. painkillers, gotta love them...
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Xbolt12
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2005 - 09:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I haven't done this or the TPS, but the bike is still running great at 12,800 miles, so I didn't feel it was necessary.

Does anyone (HD mechanic possibly) know if mechanical wear will cause either to be out of spec over time?
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2k4xb12
Posted on Saturday, April 16, 2005 - 12:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I did a writeup in the knowledge vault a while back. Here's the link:

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/3842/78049.html?1096725661

About halfway down the page, look for my post. If you don't want to take the time to click and look, here's the text:

There's been discussion lately about the ability to adjust static timing without the need to hook the bike up to the Digital Technician. It can be done, and it's really quite a simple process. Here's how to do it on an XB -- not sure how similar the other models are in terms of wire colors, etc. but the process should be the same.

1. Rear up on stand.
2. Remove seat.
3. Remove timing mark inspection plug.
4. Gently pry back the silicon rubber seal to gain access to the terminals of the gray connector on the ECM. You'll need to stab your DMM leads in from the back, and this makes it easier.
5. Set DMM to read DCV, 20V range. Insert black DMM probe into pin 7 (black wire with white tracer) and red DMM probe into pin 3 (if I recall correctly -- anyway, it's the green wire with the white tracer)
6. Sidestand up, key on, ignition switch on, transmission in 5th gear. You should hear fuel pump come on and then time out.
7. Looking through the timing mark inspecion hole, turn the rear wheel in a forward direction until the timing mark is visible at the left edge of the hole. You should see zero (or close to it) volts on the DMM. If you see +5V, then you're at TDC for the rear cylinder -- rotate the wheel until you see the mark again.
8. The meter should change from 0 to +5V just as the timing mark passes the center of the hole. As a bonus, the fuel pump comes on at the same instant, providing audible feedback as well. Turn the wheel slowly, and if you overshoot the mark, back it up until the mark is again at the left edge, and then go forward. Don't try to check/adjust it while turning the wheel backwards.
9. If the timing is advanced (transition occurs before center), nudge timing plate CCW. If the timing is retarded (transition occurs after the mark passes center), nudge the plate CW.

If, as the other thread suggested, somebody wanted to connect an LED to monitor this transition, you could easily hook it up as follows:

Connect a 330 ohm dropping resistor to the anode side of an LED. Hook the other end of the resistor to the green/white wire of the CMP sensor(pin 3, gray connector at the ECM). Hook the cathode of the LED to the black/white wire of the CMP sensor (pin 7, gray connector at the ECM). Using the above instructions, the LED would be off with the timing mark at the left edge of the hole with the front cylinder before TDC. It should then transition to ON just as the timing mark passes the center of the hole.

Additionally, both techniques can be employed by making your connections at the CMP sensor connector. I chose to probe the ECM connector because there you don't need to remove any trim pieces or cut any wire ties to access the proper wires.


(Message edited by 2k4xb12 on April 16, 2005)
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Opto
Posted on Saturday, April 16, 2005 - 09:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

One way of checking tps wear is to record the voltages from the tps with butterfly fully closed(idle speed wound right down) and at WOT. Wait a couple of years and measure again, if they are the same then no tps reset necessary.
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Opto
Posted on Saturday, April 16, 2005 - 09:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Pins 2 and 7 of the grey ecm connector.
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