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Mhlunsford
Posted on Saturday, November 25, 2017 - 05:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I currently have a M2 and have had a P3 and S2.
I am thinking I want a CR due to the HP.
What I do not understand is why the 1125 is around the same price as the XB in some cases even cheaper? Why?
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Froggy
Posted on Saturday, November 25, 2017 - 05:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I find it easier to spot a dirt cheap XB than 1125 due to the XB being around longer and having more production. I've seen more than a few sub $2k XBs I've been tempted to pick up, but I haven't seen any 1125s that cheap that weren't wrapped around a pole.

Some people think they have gold and price their bikes ridiculously (like the 2007 Ulysses that the owner wants $7k for).

For a given year and mileage, XBs and 1125s seem to be about matched in resale value, so just keep shopping around until you find the right bike.
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Terrys1980
Posted on Saturday, November 25, 2017 - 07:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

1125 stator issues, clutch weep etc..

XB no problems
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Willmrx
Posted on Saturday, November 25, 2017 - 10:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

1125r is scary powerful! Xb not as much. People buy the 1125R and scare the crap out of themselves and then sell them on the cheep.
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Robertl
Posted on Monday, November 27, 2017 - 11:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I bought a M2 in 2009 and 1125r this past May. Wow, what a difference.
Put almost as many miles on R in 6 months as I did on the M2 in 8 yrs.

I've seen XB prices creep up slightly, although a lot of XBR's on the cheep lately ($2-3k).
R/CR's are anywhere from $3500-5500 but most seem to go around $4k or $5k with rotor fix.

Parts I imagine are a big factor, plus not many Harley fans care for the Rotax engine.
I get a lot of strange looks when I pull up to the Harley dealer or biker bars...lol.
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Figorvonbuellingham
Posted on Wednesday, November 29, 2017 - 10:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I traded an o3 xb12s even up for an 09 1125cr. Kinda wish I had kept the Xb now.
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Kf5vud
Posted on Friday, December 29, 2017 - 10:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There seems to be a LOT less demand for the 1125 than for the XB bikes. I think a lot of people (rightly?) perceive the 1125 as far more complex, and thus a lot more challenging to maintain, than the comparatively simple XB.

That seems to drive prices below where they ought to be (and that's not reflected in NADA's values, unfortunately).

Also, the 1125 is, even for a moderately experienced rider, a terrifyingly powerful bike. It requires a hell of a lot more skill to ride an 1125 effectively (even not pushing its limits) than the same style of riding on an XB. I think there's some fear factor playing in, as well.
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Rsh
Posted on Friday, December 29, 2017 - 12:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Prices are all over the map for XB's,1125's and the 1190's as well. If interested, find a comfortable point and jump in.
I think part of the pricing has to do with location, in states with year round riding weather the prices tend to be higher.
Deals can be found.
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Mesozoic
Posted on Monday, February 05, 2018 - 05:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I bought my '08 XB12Ss brand new and love that bike, but I have found a whole new love in my '09 1125CR. That thing is awesome. It's a different kind of bike however... not the one I would be taking long distance touring necessarily, but on weekend canyon runs for fun.

The Rotax engine is superbly matched to the chassis, but certainly has its quirks as mentioned before (stator and clutch weep). Demand is low for them as a result of some negative reviews related to early fuel maps, heat, and more. Mine's pretty solid after addressing several of these issues, all of which have well engineered permanent solutions.
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Dannybuell
Posted on Monday, February 05, 2018 - 06:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Demand Is Low Because The Average Buyer Sees NO Supply Chain Or Properly Trained Mechanics To Maintain The Bike.
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Mesozoic
Posted on Monday, February 05, 2018 - 07:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This is true. It's a nice machine for someone who is very mechanically inclined...
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Barraspalding
Posted on Monday, February 05, 2018 - 07:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

agreed - i don't know of anywhere that is really interested in Buells generally. There are two HD dealers in Adelaide (australia), only one that has been around since the Buell days & it has retained no Buell specific tooling, and i can't really find a recommendation of anyone/anywhere that has notable experience servicing the 1125.

I guess i'll drop off my service manual if i need anything big done : )
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Emufriedchicken
Posted on Tuesday, February 06, 2018 - 02:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I found where i live in WA in Australia the local Can Am dealer to do my servicing as a lot of the servicing parts were identical. I also keep a USB stick on my bike key ring with digital copy of the Buell 1125 service manuals. This allows the dealer to check on anything Buell specific not related to Can Am.
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Terrys1980
Posted on Tuesday, February 06, 2018 - 07:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You shouldn't have a problem finding a Rotax servicing dealer. Tons of BMW, Can-Am and KTM bikes using the same basic parts...
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Shoggin
Posted on Tuesday, February 06, 2018 - 06:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's like wondering why a 2 door cadillac is the same price as a loaded SUV.
It's not that the 1125 is better or worse than the XB. It's just different, and meant for a different audience.

The 1125's are water cooled, but not 'more complex' other than the OHC needing maintenance adjustments. All '08-up Buells even share the same DDFI-3 ECM.

I feel the 1125's and the 1190's are much more similar each other than they are to the XB's. Don't ask me to choose between them!
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