| Author | Message | ||
     Djohnk |
I am looking at purchasing a 2009 1125R for $3500. It's got about 4600 miles. From the cleanliness and looks of the bike I feel its a lot of bike for the money, but I am suspicious whether they are true miles. The owner put new tires, he says due to dry rot. I noticed on some threads here that there is a glitch where the miles on the odometer (not the trip meter) sometimes resets to 0 miles when the battery is disconnected? I also noticed, in my humble opinion, too many suspiciously low-miles 1125 bikes out there for sale from the years 2008 and 2009. I have two questions for you 1125 experts: 1) Is this a true glitch? (like a best-kept secret) 2) and, if so, any ideas how to check if it happened on a bike you are looking at? | ||
| Dennis_c |
New to me on sometimes resets to 0 2008 1125R with 53,000 miles also a 2008 uly with 40,000. Make sure the stator has been updated or you can do it yourself. A lot of riders do not put very many miles on there bikes. | ||
| Terrys1980 |
Never heard of the odo resetting itself. Sold my 1125 with around 6k miles last year for $5000. | ||
| Willmrx |
I'm guessing that these bikes scare the f out of most riders. The look cool and are bad ass, but they go fast real quick! | ||
| Sprintst |
I bought my 2009 in 2012 with 129 miles on it I forget what my 2008 had, but it was low too The 2008 was a young kid who's dad had a Harley, so he went for the same - but sportier. Bike was too fast and powerful, scared him too much As I recall, the 2009 was also too fast for the guy that bought it, so he never rode it (Message edited by sprintst on August 09, 2016) | ||
| Nillaice |
From what I gather; yes, It is possible to reset the miles with a new instrument cluster and a new ecm at the same time. If either are replaced independently; the one will write the mileage to the other. but if both are replaced at the same time, I'd guess that they'd both assume it's a new bike and the display would read 0.0 smiles. There may be some elvish magic that has to be done for the ecm to actually let the engine run, but it would seem to be plausible to me. I wouldn't know because I only got the one bike, but if anyone has replaced the IC With an an older ECM, it could revert to the previous odo at the time the last ECM remembered. That being said, it's a chunk of change to invest a new ECM and IC into a bike that your going to sell because it might not yeild that much more of a return on the investment. Most likely; its a low-mileage bike But if you think it's a it's a chop-shop scam, you can at least run the vin and find out when the last service date was and see if that matches the odo and the guy's story. How's the pegs, gear shifter, seat, levers and grips look? Does it look like someone has stood/sat/held onto them for 10,000 miles? | ||
| Djohnk |
It actually looks pretty pristine, almost new except for some scratches on the left side from a garage tip-over. You can tell it was a tip-over, very minor. My Uly when I bought it with about 30K miles you could really see the miles ... my gut feeling is that it is true miles. Great idea to run a VIN check just to me sure. It also has the VR re-located under the tail, kind of a crappy job -- its attached with black zip-ties. The present owner doesn't know if the stator has been updated, he got the bike on some kind of trade and never rode it much, he rides a big Harley. Like I said, I think it's a lot of bike for $3500. I would like to put some side bags on it and make it a sport-tourer. | ||
| Figorvonbuellingham |
When they had the fire sale they had a twofer the price of one. Some people bought two and just rode one. Leaving one with hardly any miles on it, as is the case with mine at 3400 miles. There have been a few with around 600 miles that I have seen for sale it the last year. (Message edited by figorvonbuellingham on August 10, 2016) | ||
| Squish |
Prices appear to vary wildly for motorcycles, but the Buell 1125s seem to have low valuations. Getting an aftermarket VR with the bike can't be a bad thing. The stock VR is a poor design. Used second-gen Honda RC-51s with $3K to $5K in modifications were going for whatever the owners could get for them ($5K or $6K) by the 2008 time-frame. The Rotax engine in the 1125 is a advanced engine design. Go for it! | ||
| Squish |
I remember there was a board member who mounted an aftermarket series VR (an upgraded VR) to the stock cheese-grater tail of his 2009 white 1125R with black tie straps. Although it was a little on the lame side, I thought it was a great way to go (he was my idol for a day). Older race bikes hang lots-o-stuff off of their chassis' appendages. Is the 2009 bike you are considering white? (Message edited by Squish on August 10, 2016) | ||
| Froggy |
The resale value on our bikes have always been crap, even back before the factory closed. There are plenty of low mileage models out there, most people don't ride much. For every JDugger, Dennis_c and others that ride them to the wheels fall off, there are a hundred others that touch the bike once in a blue moon at best. | ||
| Djohnk |
Squish, it is in fact white with blue accents including the rims and decals. Actually I shouldn't call the tie straps a crappy job, that's the way I went with my Uly years ago and it's still attached  I always intended on building a fancy bracket to attach my VR but never got around to it. | ||
| Airbozo |
I've seen a lot of the 1125's with very low miles. In fact I see a lot of bikes for sale in the 2005-2010 range with under 5k miles. I picked up a 2000 S3T with ~5k in 2012 and now have ~30k... Some people just don't ride them that much. | ||
| Figorvonbuellingham |
There are probably people who don't know about the stator issue and just think " damn thing won't keep a battery charged" so they just pushed it I the corner and left it. | ||
| Thefleshrocket |
The stock tires were almost always done well before 4600 miles so it is no surprise that the bike doesn't have the original tires on it. Sportbikes typically accrue mileage a lot slower than touring or sport touring bikes--and often even slower than cruisers. 4600 miles is totally believable for an '09. (Mine has ~14K on it but I have three other bikes that share seat time so none of them get more than a couple thousand miles a year.) | ||
| Squish |
This is the bike I mentioned above with the aftermarket CE-605sb VR installation on the stock Cheese Grater tail. Awesome....ok, admittedly, the install is a little on the lame side, but it works. I saw another 2009 1125R with an aftermarket VR mounted to the underside plastic rear fender/close-out structure of the tail; this install was cleaner versus the black plastic tie-straps. Board member is (was?) Hildstrom. His profile states he sold his 2009 1125R "because I was ready to move on to something else". Is this the bike you are looking at? http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/board-profile.cgi?action=view_profile&profile=hildstrom-users http://hildstrom.com/  (Message edited by Squish on August 11, 2016) (Message edited by Squish on August 11, 2016) | ||
| Sdw |
Mileage is probably true. Like you I went for the 1125R because it's a lot of bike for the money and with dropped pegs and a Saddleman seat it's comfortable on long rides but you can still chuck it around. I knew I would have to sort a few things (Stator and rotor mod) but it seems this one has had some work done if the VR has been changed so I would just ride it and enjoy proper value for money!. | ||
| Djohnk |
Squish, It sure looks like the bike I'm considering. Hard to tell but the VR is mounted in the same place exactly like that with black zip-ties. Also, Texas is not too far from Oklahoma. Would be cool if it was his bike. It means the stator and rotor have been upgraded and it has the EBR ECM in edition to an upgraded voltage regulator (according to his profile page). I'm much closer to pulling the trigger and getting it if that's the case. I don't really need a bike, just it's hard to pass up after seeing it in person. (Message edited by djohnk on August 12, 2016) | ||
| Djohnk |
His profile says he had it rigged up so the the rear injector disconnects in neutral. That's interesting. | ||
| Squish |
I'm not sure what he is doing with the control system WRT the rear injector. You still may be able to send him an email through the badweatehbikers email contact system. Also, you can search his old posts. He may have discussed the rear injector control mods. I think he provided plenty of technical dialogue years ago. Then Jump on it. The white color 2009 1125Rs are the best looking (I might be biased). | ||
| Bubba_ |
i remember reading a whole lot of his documentation on the stator/ rotor, etc. it was good stuff; i suspect its still available on BWB if one wanted to pull it up; Think i remember seeing his experimental use of shutting down 1 cylinder to combat overheating in stop & go / heavy traffic. i could be wrong tho | ||
| Brother_in_buells |
http://hildstrom.com/projects/buellfi/index.html | ||
| Djohnk |
It definitely doesn't have those switches mounted on it ... if it was his bike he removed the neutral-one-cylinder stuff so he could sell it. | ||
| Bubba_ |
The white color 2009 1125Rs are the best looking (I might be biased) there's no question tis true | ||
| Squish |
+1 | ||
| Squish |
Djohnk, If you are serious about getting the subject 1125R but are concerned about the various modifications done to the bike, it might be beneficial to contact Hildstrom directly. His con tact info rmat ion is at his link under “Contact”. His background is Computer Science and Information Technology. I would bet he was tinkering with the 2009 1125R in just to see if he could improve the bike, but he likely removed the 1125R’s rear injector shut down modification before he sold the bike. That said, the bike apparently includes the CE-605 SB regulator, and an EBR ECM. I am not sure what an “air-cooling rotor” means, but with any luck, this is the improved oil-jet rotor by EBR or another MC shop with did the oil-jet rotor mod. The aftermarket CE-605 VR and the EBR ECM will improve the bike over the stock configuration. Hildstrom’s mods listed in his profile: Rear injector disconnect in neutral, DIY stator rewind, air-cooling rotor, CE-605 SB regulator, EBR ECM http://hildstrom.com/ | ||
| Terrys1980 |
This is the air-cooled rotor mod he did as well as the stator testing and what not. http://hildstrom.com/projects/buellstator/index.ht ml#rotormodification | ||
| Djohnk |
It's not his bike, he says he sold his at 11k miles. The one I'm looking at is 5.6k. | ||
| J_copeland |
I have a low mileage 1125R,with under 3k miles. As soon as I put the new Q'3 on it,I'll be asking in about the 4k range. | ||
| Joe7bros |
J copeland, you would probably do better to sell it as-is, deducting the cost of tires and mount/balance, the bikes seem to just sit there once they go over 4Gs. |
