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Jdmagri
Posted on Tuesday, May 29, 2012 - 09:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anyone in the SE Michigan or Northern Ohio area interested in renting your crankshaft locking tool out? Seems that EBR is regularly sold out on these and if they are out there we could share them. I will of course pay all shipping and chip in some money for your troubles. Just an idea, since I'm hoping to not pull this rotor ever again after the EBR modification.
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Yugi
Posted on Tuesday, May 29, 2012 - 11:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have one. Can send it to you.
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Bartimus
Posted on Wednesday, May 30, 2012 - 12:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am also in need of a crankshaft locking tool, and am willing to "rent" one if needed. I am in New Mexico...
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Timebandit
Posted on Wednesday, May 30, 2012 - 02:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

web site says they are in stock now. just buy one.
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Jdmagri
Posted on Thursday, May 31, 2012 - 11:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hi Yugi,

Thank for the offer, I suppose I will probably just buy one. I'm hoping to only need it once though with the new rotor oil hole upgrade.
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Yugi
Posted on Thursday, May 31, 2012 - 01:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How about if I'll sell you one for $50+shipping?
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Nikponcherello
Posted on Tuesday, June 12, 2012 - 10:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anyone ever measure that shank diameter for the DIYers?
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Timebandit
Posted on Friday, June 15, 2012 - 07:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nik, the crank locking tool is 19/64 diameter.
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Noobuel
Posted on Thursday, June 28, 2012 - 12:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm cheap, reviving the concept of a loaner. Prefer not to buy a tool I plan to use once. Any owners willing to loan the tool?
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Kinder
Posted on Thursday, June 28, 2012 - 05:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

PM me your addy and I'll get a quote for shipping. I have a custom one. You pay me shipping then if someone else want to borrow it you MUST do the same and so on. It can be the communal tool!
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Timebandit
Posted on Thursday, June 28, 2012 - 07:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

nice.
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Noobuel
Posted on Thursday, June 28, 2012 - 07:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I can certainly agree to those terms. One question, is your tool hardened to withstand the torque requirements?
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Kinder
Posted on Monday, July 02, 2012 - 12:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cold steel. Worked fine for me. As for the torquing down part... no one had a torque wrench capable of 300ftlbs. In fact even the Aprila service guys laughed when they heard that so I used a 250 and pushed it maybe a 1/16 more?

There was a fair amount of lock tight as well.

Seems fine now. : )
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Zac4mac
Posted on Tuesday, July 03, 2012 - 12:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The shop I'm at has a 500# torque wrench.
It's 3/4" drive and a little over 3 feet long.
I had trouble getting it to click at 300#, I weigh ~150#. well, my feet were still on the ground... barely.

Honestly, if you don't have a proper torque wrench, get a 1-1/4" deep socket and a 1/2" drive breaker bar.
2' long and 150# or 3' long and 100# at 3 o'clock and you're there.

Do it right
Live long

Z
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Kevmean
Posted on Tuesday, July 03, 2012 - 02:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you can't get hold of a suitable torque wrench see if you can hire or borrow a torque multiplier to go with a smaller torque wrench ; ) ......... this also has the added advantage that it will need less input power from the user so could allow the weaker amongst us to apply the correct torque.
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Nikponcherello
Posted on Tuesday, July 03, 2012 - 03:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My crank locking tool. Don't laugh, it worked just fine, it was free, and it was made in the time it took for my parts to arrive.

tool


It's just a 1/4" rod, an M12 x 1.5 bolt with a hole in it, and the ugliest stick weld you've ever seen.
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Nikponcherello
Posted on Tuesday, July 03, 2012 - 03:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And my torque wrench.... Again, it worked and it'll never loose calibration for as long as gravity never changes... : )
Also free.



twrench
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Kinder
Posted on Wednesday, July 04, 2012 - 11:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I never even heard of a torque multiplier. Learn something new everyday! : D

I did some hunting and no-one had one to rent and the only one I found local to buy was from snap-on and was way out of my league. I even called my local Buell shop and asked if any techs could rent/ borrow theirs to me but NO-ONE had one! :/ Goes to show even more why I don't bring my ride there anymore for servicing.

Well my feet never left the ground but I also weigh 240lbs. And while the spec says 300ftlbs I have no doubts it isn't going anywhere. And if it does then it does.

But back to the offer...

I am willing to send my custome made tool to who ever needs it for the cost of shipping as long as they do the same down the road. : )
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Devondunit
Posted on Tuesday, July 17, 2012 - 09:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am interested in borrowing your custom crank tool. Devondunit@gmail.com is my email if your still willing to loan it out. Of course I'll pay for shipping both ways, etc.
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Nikponcherello
Posted on Saturday, July 21, 2012 - 11:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Devondunit, did you ever find one? I could loan mine out. I'm just not going confident that won't fail on you. It's cobbled.
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Devondunit
Posted on Sunday, July 22, 2012 - 04:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No, i got the new rotor and my flywheel nut comes in tomorrow (Monday) and I got a 1/4" rod, going to get a bolt and just fab one like yours. Thanks though, photos and such helped a lot so far.
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Nikponcherello
Posted on Monday, July 23, 2012 - 06:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

give yourself more of a handle than I did.
I had to twist mine in with needle nose pliers because the portion that I had left to twist was up in side a recess. It was fine but about 3-4 inches of handle behind the bolt would have been perfect.
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Jamesquick
Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2012 - 01:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If anyone has the CamShaft locking tool I would be very interested in buying it, or at least borrowing it for a little while when my new EBR rotor comes in
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Bartimus
Posted on Tuesday, August 21, 2012 - 10:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have one, PM me
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Puddlepirate
Posted on Tuesday, August 21, 2012 - 10:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Do you want the CAMshaft one or the CRANKshaft one? The CRANK is for the rotor.
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Jamesquick
Posted on Wednesday, August 22, 2012 - 12:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Crankshaft...im sorry lol and I sent you a PM Bartimus. Im not sure how to check mine though lol
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Figorvonbuellingham
Posted on Monday, August 27, 2012 - 10:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Why not use a 19/64 drill bit?
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Zac4mac
Posted on Monday, August 27, 2012 - 04:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The "pit" in the crank is fairly shallow.
The only way to safely lock the crank is to screw the pin into the pit so it stays put.
Also without the "locking" threads on the tool, you bugger up the plug threads in the engine case.

Bottom line, unless you're a master machinist, buy the tool from EBR or borrow it from someone and be done with it.
Don't try to save a few bucks on this tool, it will only bite you in the behind.

My 2¢
Z
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Jamesquick
Posted on Monday, August 27, 2012 - 04:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Bartimus! Just your tools in the mail today I hate living in the middle of the woods lol. I'm hoping y new rotor comes in the next few days. I'll get this job done and your tools back to you ASAP. Thanks again everyone for the advice.
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Rorod22
Posted on Thursday, October 03, 2013 - 10:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ok so putting my. 1125 back together I have this sensor with bosh in green on it and its pluged in but has a bolt hole and what looks should have a tube or hose on the bottom ? Don't remember taking it off anything
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