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Lospice1
Posted on Wednesday, January 08, 2014 - 09:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was at a member's track day at NOLA motorsports a couple of weeks ago and to my surprise Blake Young and the EBR Hero crew were testing! Whats-more, Larry Pegram was testing as well...It was fun to be on the track with those guys and validated what I already knew...they are in a different league! Truly great to follow them..albeit for a nanosecond; )

Of course I forgot my go pro, but was able to take some crew pics!

My attempt at being artistic:





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Lospice1
Posted on Wednesday, January 08, 2014 - 09:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Goody table:




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Firemanjim
Posted on Wednesday, January 08, 2014 - 11:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I like that way of working on the motor!
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Dannybuell
Posted on Thursday, January 09, 2014 - 01:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

that front tire close up is poster grade!!!
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Shawns
Posted on Thursday, January 09, 2014 - 05:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Awesome
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Mackja
Posted on Thursday, January 09, 2014 - 07:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pegram keeps denying he is riding an EBR this year. Strange to be testing in January on a bike you are not going to race? Time will tell.
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Trojan
Posted on Thursday, January 09, 2014 - 08:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Did they do any testing or spend the entire time bike building?
That does not look like trackside fine tuning to me!
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, January 09, 2014 - 09:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Neat to see all the tidbits that are normally hidden or otherwise obfuscated by body work.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Thursday, January 09, 2014 - 09:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

While the bike looks really taken apart, the "table of parts" doesn't look that daunting.

Maybe a company that is building street legal track bikes built a machine that is really easy to take down to an exposed motor, particularly when it is in race trim.
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, January 09, 2014 - 10:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What you don't see is the blindfolded mechanic field stripping the bike while his buddies hold the stopwatch. This is my motorcycle, this is my gun...
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Jdugger
Posted on Thursday, January 09, 2014 - 11:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The only thing that makes motorcycles complicated in street crap.

In race trim, the 1125r was easy to service, too. I could pull the chassis off the motor in about an hour, leaving cooling system and other bits in place.

When you get the wiring harness down to just what's necessary, eliminate all the superfluous EPA crap, and it's just a bike... they are refreshingly uncomplicated.
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Rodrob
Posted on Thursday, January 09, 2014 - 03:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Great pics. Especially interesting for an 1190RS owner/racer. The air box assembly is not the same as my 1190RS. My guess is that it is from the new 1190RX. I wonder if they are using the the RX heads and/or throttle bodies, if they are any different.

I've been trying to get one of those engine stands since I bought the bike.
no luck so far. This is what I made for the time being.


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Two_seasons
Posted on Thursday, January 09, 2014 - 08:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Those engine stands are made from the same material that GE uses to mock-up and build working kits for the production lines inside our factories.

I could find out the material for you and the attaching black interlocks if you are interested.

Let me know!
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Smoke4ndmears
Posted on Thursday, January 09, 2014 - 10:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There is probably a small market here for those stands. Would love one myself.


Thanks for the pics!
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Thursday, January 09, 2014 - 10:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Im wondering if Pegram was just doing some riding on the bikes for fun like other riders have in the past?

I'd love to see him on an EBR though!
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, January 09, 2014 - 10:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nice photos!
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Lospice1
Posted on Friday, January 10, 2014 - 12:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thought y'all would like them...It was interesting talking to the crew...they said a lot of parts were being absconded by the WSB team!

will
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Ron47
Posted on Friday, January 10, 2014 - 09:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Did you ask them to do a quick valve adjustment for you? I mean, they already had their tools out and all. :-)
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Jdugger
Posted on Friday, January 10, 2014 - 10:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

> There is probably a small market here for those stands. Would love one myself.

Something like this?


MotorStand


I could make more, but they would be quite expensive, somewhere in the $350 range.

Hand-fabricated, TIG welded construction out of Aluminum.

I use mine a lot. So many jobs on this bike are made so easy with a good motor stand.
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Rodrob
Posted on Friday, January 10, 2014 - 02:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I could find out the material for you and the attaching black interlocks if you are interested.

Thanks. I believe that they use this system -
http://www.americanpropipe.com
I have confirmed that I can order the components needed. What I would need from EBR, or somebody, is the custom made top section,upon which the motor sits.
Everyone who works on an 1125R or 1190RS or 1190RX, needs one of these.

Nice Work Jim! I wish I had that capability.
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Vtpeg
Posted on Friday, January 10, 2014 - 06:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What are the red dots on the brake rotor?
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Craigg
Posted on Friday, January 10, 2014 - 08:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Pegram keeps denying he is riding an EBR this year. Strange to be testing in January on a bike you are not going to race? Time will tell."

There is an article out that EBR isn't participating in AMA this year.
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Mackja
Posted on Friday, January 10, 2014 - 09:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

While I know EBR Hero is not participating in the AMA, I a sure Erik would like to have privateers on his bikes. RSR Racecraft, Pegram Racing, etc...
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Stirz007
Posted on Friday, January 10, 2014 - 10:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What are the red dots on the brake rotor?

Maybe heat-sensitive paint (?) to see if rotors are getting above a certain temp. The blue sticker on the caliper appears to be for that purpose. Or it could be just to keep track of what rotors were on which bike for post-mortems.
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Dhays1775
Posted on Friday, January 10, 2014 - 10:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Stirz, if you look at the edge of the red dot, closest to the edge of the pads, you can see that the color is more yellow than red.
I think your on to something...
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Jdugger
Posted on Saturday, January 11, 2014 - 07:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

> Maybe heat-sensitive paint (?)

That's my guess, too. I have a whole box of heat-sensitive "crayons" here. It's something of a waxy/greasy substance. The different colors are for different temps.

They are meant to use with welding prep. You mark the piece of metal and then pre-heat around it until the crayon melts, then you know you are good to go.

If one were studying heat dissipation at the track instead of on the brake dyno, this would be a way to take consistent measurements and see if a change were happening.

That said, the picture above seems to show "stock" steel hardware. I need a picture looking down into the drive bushings to tell if there's anything unique about it.
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Saturday, January 11, 2014 - 08:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Or maybe they mark with the paint after its torqued down, so they know they did it
wouldnt want THE front brake rotor coming off in a race or testing situation.

Maybe.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Saturday, January 11, 2014 - 08:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pegram keeps denying he is riding an EBR this year. Strange to be testing in January on a bike you are not going to race? Time will tell.

In the quote I saw (on Stuporbikeplanet), Pegram said he is not riding a BUELL this year:

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2014/Jan/140106a72.htm

He may have been being cleverly 100% accurate in his statement.

(Message edited by Hughlysses on January 11, 2014)
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Riohondohank
Posted on Saturday, January 11, 2014 - 09:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Actually there were 3 riders testing at NOLA for EBR.
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Two_seasons
Posted on Saturday, January 11, 2014 - 09:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As Hybridmomentspass said, those red marks at the rotor mounting bolts are probably to indicate they were torqued.

Did you know that Loctite removes that torque paint?
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