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Froader4life
Posted on Saturday, November 09, 2013 - 05:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I know there has been a lot of talk about lithium ion batteries and they sound great for the weight and space savings but right now I'm on a tight budget and my original battery is on the fritz. I know I can go to a Harley dealer and pay about $100 for a factory one but there are other cheaper ones on eBay and other places. Just looking for opinions or experiences to let me know if it's worth it to buy the $40 one off eBay.
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Craigg
Posted on Saturday, November 09, 2013 - 06:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Everyone can understand being on a tight budget and I'm sure we've all been there. With that being said do you really want to risk installing a cheap battery on a lets just say $10K bike?

What's a $100 when you already spent $10K. You're talking about a difference of $60 for a battery you know won't give you problems in the long run.

That's just my advice though, I am a cars salesman so I do have a different perspective on items for vehicles.

I've never used an inexpensive battery, so I really can't say if its a bad idea.

I did buy a Lithium Ion battery and have been happy so far.

(Message edited by CraigG on November 09, 2013)
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Nuts4mc
Posted on Saturday, November 09, 2013 - 06:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

if you do buy a battery on-line or at Wal Mart...make sure the battery terminal orientation is correct...in the early days of battery failures there were a high number of posts concerning "how do I make the battery leads/connections longer?" in order to utilize a battery designed for a rice burner in a Buell - the terminal/battery connection is also "unique" to the Buell - if you're gonna go the lead acid route and you're a novice at wiring high current connections - buy the HD brand battery...it saves a lot of headaches later...
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Froggy
Posted on Saturday, November 09, 2013 - 07:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The cheapo batteries online often are not AGM and will spill when installed on our bikes.

The Harley battery is not bad, and not overpriced.
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Zac4mac
Posted on Saturday, November 09, 2013 - 09:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My opinion - buy the H-D battery or a good LiFePo.
I spent 3-1/2 years at the parts counter of my local H-D/B dealer.
<edit> Boy, THAT was an eye-opener...

The H-D batteries were easy for me to sell because they work well and last a long time.
Our 12Ah batteries tend to last 3-5 years with the H-D version when tendered regularly.

I have an 08 1125R and a 2009 XB12X, both have their original batteries, stator, rotor and R/R.
1125R has 28k miles, XB12X has 33k miles.
Loretta's is now 6 years old, outside the Bell curve to the high side!

The H-D batteries ALWAYS outlasted their competition, sometimes by a factor of 2+.

Z

<edit> Also, pretty sure they are "Made in the USA"

(Message edited by zac4mac on November 09, 2013)
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Jdugger
Posted on Sunday, November 10, 2013 - 08:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Don't skimp on batteries. Having one leak or blow up causes a lot more damage than you can imagine.
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Dhays1775
Posted on Sunday, November 10, 2013 - 01:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have had a LiFePo4 "Ballistic 12-cell" battery in my CR for a long time. After I got back from an 8 month deployment, it was dead. So, I pulled it out, trickle-charged it on my little solar panel, balanced it on the battery balancer, reinstalled, and all is well. The LiFePo batteries have a very long shelf life, much more so than the AGM batteries. Plus, they come with a pretty badass warranty. Worth every penny to me.

I spent $170 on the battery and balancer and they have done pretty good for the past 3 years. And, it only weighs two pounds. I have the stock replacement sitting on the shelf that I trickle charge every other month or so.

Absolutely would NOT buy a cheap battery just for the fact that you almost always get what you pay for.

Hope this helps.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Sunday, November 10, 2013 - 01:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just as a (confusing, sorry) data point, myself and a couple others were happy with HD batteries for all the reasons mentioned above for many years, and we got one a year or two ago that only lasted about a year. So the manufacturer must have been having issues.

Probably / hopefully cleaned up by now...
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Nik
Posted on Sunday, November 10, 2013 - 10:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is Deka not an option for the 1125? They're not substantially less expensive than the HD batteries, but they're made in the US and do well in testing. About $70 for the one in my XB.
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Yugi
Posted on Monday, November 11, 2013 - 02:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

H-D batteries are produced by Deka.
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Sir_wadsalot
Posted on Monday, November 11, 2013 - 06:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The stock battery is an AGM?

Yausa makes a lot of the OEM batteries, they're fantastic but not cheap. I've always gone the Wal-mart route, but I haven't looked into a battery for the 1125 yet.

If the stocker is indeed an AGM, I wouldn't play with it, especially given demands the fans place on the system. I know sitting in traffic for a long time in the DC area, if I shut it down at a light or stall she don't wanna restart. I wouldn't get a battery not meant for it, and I def wouldn't rig something.

You can't really beat a good AGM, as far as lead goes.

(Message edited by sir_wadsalot on November 11, 2013)
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Thefleshrocket
Posted on Monday, November 11, 2013 - 10:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Do NOT buy Walmart batteries. I've had three fail on me (two car, one bike) in a year or less since installation.

My '08 1125's stock battery lasted until this summer, so 5 years, give or take. I went with a Yuasa, though--made in the USA and the local battery retailer had them for $70 or so if I recall correctly. Can't comment on longevity, though--ask me in 5 years--but it has been trouble free thus far!
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Sir_wadsalot
Posted on Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - 09:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mehhh, I've had about a one in five fail rate in the Wallyworld specials- but I don't expect much from the cheapest battery I can possibly local source.

My stocker's been at it for 5 years now too. I expect it to poop the bed next summer or so.

Yausa makes an 1125 specific AGM battery? I tell you the one in my Sportster always started, and I hardly ever rode it and never charged it.
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Ridenusa4l
Posted on Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - 03:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've gone through about 4 batteries in the 5.5 years Ive had my 1125....2 stators and the upgrade later...I bought a 50$ Battery off online -cant remember where- and got a battery tender from cycle gear.....never had a problem since!

Jake
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Thefleshrocket
Posted on Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - 04:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah, the Yuasa battery box said it was AGM and made in the USA.
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Froader4life
Posted on Wednesday, November 13, 2013 - 10:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for everyone's feedback. I will be stopping by American Sport Bike tomorrow to pick up a battery from Al.
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Skntpig
Posted on Friday, November 15, 2013 - 12:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Battery tender is a must for 1125. Your battery will last a long very long time if you connect after every ride. Still on the original battery here. I have a deka in the other bikes and they work well.
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