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Cataract2
Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2013 - 11:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just to have the information. I know the 1125R belt is a 145 tooth count. I was wondering if there was an alternative to the HD belt that is $180. I've heard of others running alternatives with no issues. I'm planning on changing my belts out at 20,000-25,000 miles a preventative maintenance.
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Jdugger
Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2013 - 11:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Chain drive kit at $2k.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2013 - 11:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

In round numbers...$200 for 20,000 miles is a penny a mile.

I'm good with that.
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Froggy
Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2013 - 12:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Who is this that is running an aftermarket belt? The only one I've seen someone use was on a XB, and it really wasn't an aftermarket belt as it appears to be the same stock Goodyear belt but without the Buell logo.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2013 - 12:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Froggy- I've seen photos of at least one belt on an XB that wasn't Goodyear. IIRC, it was on a Buell in the UK and the belt was by a European supplier.
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Nik
Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2013 - 02:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/327 77/713813.html?1374661451

The XBs use the same belt as tubers and some sportsters so it's a bit easier to find aftermarket stuff. I don't know if there's a 1125 one or not.

I just ordered a Goodyear belt for my cityx. Not because of price (it's only $40 less,) but because I can get it next day after a simple easy tire change revealed cracking, bad bearings, and worn brakes.
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General_tso
Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2013 - 03:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cataract 2

I have a brand new belt I can no longer use. PM if you're interested and I'm sure we can work out a deal.
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Stimbrell
Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2013 - 03:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There are belts available on ebay in the UK for about 100, a big saving for us in the UK as belts from our dealers are about 200, but as you only pay $200 there is far less saving for you, probably no saving once the belt is posted to the USA, when my belt broke at 8K miles I bought the belt from the dealer as I need the bike to commute so could take no chances but I will try the cheaper belt next time to see how it lasts.
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Kevmean
Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2013 - 06:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've yet to hear of anybody finding a cheaper belt anywhere that lasts anywhere near the life of genuine belts, the Xb / tuber genuine belts that are on ebay in the uk for just over 100 are actually from st Pauls HD in the states I paid I think 112 for mine but with postage and imports it still came to about 170 total

(Message edited by kevmean on July 30, 2013)
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Sprintst
Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2013 - 07:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Run it until it drops.

The design life is for the life of the bike
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Cataract2
Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2013 - 08:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah, like it lives until I'm on a trip last week. Hence why I've decided replace at 20K-25K.

Just wanted to see if any other makes out there existed for this bike. I'm guessing not.
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Sir_wadsalot
Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2013 - 10:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll be ordering from Goodyear, I'll be damned if pay extra for harley to sell me a "Buell" monogram on the same belt from the same factory.

These are basically toothed blower belts for superchargers. I bet if you sourced it that way you could find them, but there probably aren't any "cheap" ones, given the punishment they are designed to take.

There have to be companies that make blower belts in custom lengths, but again, it's probably not cheap.

Personally, I don't miss cleaning and lubing a chain, and I don't miss chain flung lube all over my swingarm...not one bit.

Interesting thread.
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Sportster_mann
Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2013 - 11:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I thought that HD used Gates to make the belts ?

Or have they changed suppliers ?
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2013 - 11:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Chain drive kit at $2k."

insane to pay that much for a chain kit
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General_tso
Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2013 - 11:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I agree the cost of the chain kit is more than most would pay and for the street it would be a waste of money but for racing it's worth having the ability to alter gear ratios to a specific track as well as changing geometry to suit.
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Sprintst
Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2013 - 12:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The flaw in the logic in preemptive replacement, as I see it, is that the belt wears

Per BMC, the beltlife is indefinite - ie; designed for the life of the bike

Now we all know belts can and do fail, but you must look at the cause.

Many people remove the shields, then rocks and debris get in and damage the belt, failure occurs

How many belts actually fail just by age and use?

If you inspect your belt before this trip and it looks good, I would estimate the durability to be 95% of a new belt.

Why? Because I don't believe belt failures are due to age and wear, but from external factors. Those external factors can break a new belt just as easily as an old belt.

Now, I may be offbase, but again, BMC doesn't spec a lifespan on the belt, which tells me that mileage and age are minor factors in the durability

(Message edited by sprintst on July 31, 2013)
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Jdugger
Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2013 - 01:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

> insane to pay that much for a chain kit

Not really.

The chain kit is a whole swing arm, plus all the bits to convert a wheel.

It's also a quick-change, and I've seen kits costing that much that aren't nearly as good or as fast as the EBR kit.

It's not a good choice for a street rider, but for racing, it's actually a pretty good value. I'm sure I'll do it to my teaching bike just so I have everything standardized between the two bikes.
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Zac4mac
Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2013 - 11:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I thought that HD used Gates to make the belts ?

Gates makes H-D's belts, Goodyear - Buells.

Z
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Oldog
Posted on Thursday, August 01, 2013 - 07:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How many belts actually fail just by age and use?

Mine was de-laminating at 10 K miles granted the last 10 months of my warranty the bike sat in the garage

but the belts can just fail due to manufacturing defects, all guards in place, no hammering the bike....

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F_stop
Posted on Wednesday, August 07, 2013 - 01:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wow...just found this thread today, as I just got back from a morning ride and had the belt on my 09 1125CR delaminate(?). Just 2400 miles on the CR, very little abuse, no track days, etc. Yet my 95 S2 has 10 X the mileage and all sorts of abuse early in its history, and belt is fine...Oh well! Steve
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Jdugger
Posted on Wednesday, August 07, 2013 - 02:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've had belts last a season of racing and numerous track days, and I've had belts delaminate and start losing teeth after two or three track days.

You just can't predict with the belt.
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Anonymous
Posted on Wednesday, August 07, 2013 - 04:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Chain FTMFW!!
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Al_lighton
Posted on Wednesday, August 07, 2013 - 04:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Goodyear does make belts in the same physical sizes (i.e., 1-1/8" wide, 14mm tooth pitch) as the Buell belts, but they aren't the same as the Buell branded belts. According to a source at Goodyear, the other Goodyear belts have CF stranding in them and aren't suitable for the reverse bending across the idler wheel. The Buell "Hibrex" technology belts have aramid (Kevlar) stranding in them.
But I'm still digging around on this. I'd love to find a non-HD source for the same technology belt.

Al
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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, August 07, 2013 - 04:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anonymous, PM sent.
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Boohoo
Posted on Wednesday, August 07, 2013 - 04:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Al do you sell the Buell belts?
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Al_lighton
Posted on Wednesday, August 07, 2013 - 07:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yup....
CR http://www.americansportbike.com/shoponline/ccp0-p rodshow/18025.html
R http://www.americansportbike.com/shoponline/ccp0-p rodshow/18024.html
Both in stock at present.

Al
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Advanguard
Posted on Saturday, February 08, 2014 - 02:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.bandousa.com/html/pdfs/bu-200_power_tra ns.pdf
page 62 has a 145 tooth not sure of pitch width is 25 mm @ 3 mm short for width next page show wider ones
@$36-$40
someone with more knowledge on these belts could look into it?


FYI: Al at american sports bike is awesome, saved me money and time on incorrect online purchase, he stopped the order, called and emailed, corrected the "my bad" ordering, next day at my house
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Ggggary
Posted on Sunday, June 23, 2019 - 08:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just wondering; any sources for a replacement belt these days? 2008 1125R
links above are dead as a Buell dealer.
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