| Author | Message | ||
     Figorvonbuellingham |
I traded last week. Right off I noticed very little pull compared to the CR. This seems odd because I believe the CR has less torque. I got the rev limiter removed today so I finally got it past 8000 rpms. I thought thats where the torque might be hiding but no. The bells and whistles are nice and it does handle awsome but to be honest I wish I had just kept the CR. This is an expensive lesson. I traded a pristine CR that I bought for $5000 for something tha,t in my opinion, isnt as fun and now have a huge loan to pay off. I can't wait for the new 1190's. I'm going to see what kind of trade in they will give me on the S1K. The grass really isn't greener on the other side. There is one last hope. Slick mode. I have to install the slick mode key which is only supposed to be used for track only. I guess it might be like our RACE ONLY ecm's. Keeping fingers crossed that this may unleash the beast. | ||
| Hybridmomentspass |
slick mode key? | ||
| Methyman |
I bet the CR is more comfortable! | ||
| Figorvonbuellingham |
Slick mode is for track use only with slick tires. Just changes the parameter of the traction control, abs and who knows what else....Probably better fueling in the upper rpms too I dunno. Ill get it hooked up and see if I can kill myself. Actually this bike is more comfortable for me as I am short and I found the CR to be a real stretch. It also has lower seat height so Im nearly flat footed on it where as on the CR I was tippy toeing. | ||
| Craigg |
I'll trade you my 1125R for it...lol | ||
| Levor |
The rather surprising lack of low end grunt on the S1000RR is something that has come up at my local bike night with regularity. This is true of most all I4s however, you simply lack the grunt off the line. The S1000RR is intended to be a bike you ride int he upper end of the RPM range. Its a horrible commuter bike and as the various owners of these bikes seem to agree - not horribly fun below midrange RPMs. Give it a bit of time, feel the bike out, you might just find it to be even more fun than the CR! The've got a huge chunk of HP to bring to the table, so they're definitely not gutless! That said, I could not fathom the idea of giving up my vtwin CR for a 4 cylinder anything. I just love the instant torque way too much. | ||
| Rodrob |
That bike has to be ridden to redline. Slick mode will only give you more power if you are spinning the tires. It's a gas to ride once you realize that you can't ride it like an 1125. | ||
| Trojan |
Comparing torque/power from a V twin with an IL4 is never going to be straightforward argument, and you would be very wrong to expect the same amount of bottom end grunt from the BMW as you got from the 1125, just as you would be wrong to expect the 1125 to give the same top end rush as the BMW. The BMW has one of the shortest strokes of any 1000cc IL4 and needs to be revved HARD to get the most power from it. You just to a period of re-adjustment on the BMW to get used to the different power characteristics........Or, you have just bought the wrong bike for you  | ||
| Reepicheep |
The 1125 and S1K are both great bikes. Pretend your idle is set to 5000 RPM on the S1K, and you will have a ton of power everywhere. Power isn't the problem, the other things happening in order to get power is a personal preference thing (which is important). I totally got it the first time I rode a Buell (a beautiful black M2) coming from an inline four. The leap when you crack the throttle from low RPM... lovely. Like a big bore dirt bike. The feeling of being shot out of a great big rubber band (harder at the start of your pull and softer towards the end), awesome. As opposed to an inline four which starts soft but just keeps building and building, like a jet on takeoff. Being able to have power without running around sounding like some 19 year old ricky racer with self esteem issues... I love it. I remember laying the dyno plot for the tubers over the dyno plot for a Hayabusa. Up to 6500 RPM, they are VERY similar. Of course after that, the Hayabusa keeps climbing, but the Buell is bouncing off the rev limiter. If you don't know a lot about riding and bikes, you would think that's a disaster for the Buell. Once you have ridden for a while, you get that the half of the Busa that the Buell has is the important half, and that while perhaps less is not more, it also isn't that much less either. | ||
| Rogue_biker |
I do love the torque of my 1125R. Off the line, in the midrange, even up top it has that immediate response to throttle input that is very strong. Off the line is so much fun, even given the bike's tall gearing. Having said that, I also have a Honda VFR800. Everyone complains about this bike's relatively low power and torque. However, I can't find much to complain about. Yes, it's nowhere near as strong as the 1125R, but it's still fast. Even off the line it's plenty fast. When I take off from a standing start, the VFR800 moves along quite nicely, albeit I need 6k RPM shift point to leave everyone behind. Whilst on the 1125R, 5k RPM is all I need. 6k RPM and the bike is really cooking and no car can keep up. So, I'm surprised you're not happy with the S1000R's torque. By all indications, this bike should just fly with all that power! | ||
| Stimbrell |
You do know someone on the the BMW forums is going to tell you, "it's because you only know how to ride a Harley, you have to rev these bikes you know" Oh hang on, that's this site! | ||
| Rogue_biker |
Rev passed 6k on the 1125R around the urban sprawl of Southern California and I'm well above 20 mph over the limit quick! LOL! | ||
| Oldog |
sounds like an awesome bike ride safe | ||
| Figorvonbuellingham |
I put the slick mode key in and rode around in slick mode today. It has much more pep. I think what is going on that I am not used to is the traction control keeping the bike from being an uncontrollable monster. It really seems to tone down the harshness of the throttle that I was used to with the 1125. Yes the upper rpms are where the torque kicks in but by then im going 60 mph over the speed limit. Definately a track bike. Quite easy to ride too. Its growing on me. Im still going to see what I can on a trade in for a EBR 1190 when they come out. | ||
| Jaredc01 |
If I had to get a new bike right now, it would for sure be a KTM RC8... Can't NOT have a big twin, and the Duc just doesn't appeal to me as much. That said, the S1000RR is a pretty sexy bike. | ||
| Sir_wadsalot |
Hmmm... Maybe it's the wheelie control that's hampering your low end fun? You're launching the hell out of it, it's cutting power? More revs, more clutch slip, shut off wheelie control? | ||
| Reepicheep |
Good point Figo. These insane hyperbikes are geared to the moon... Couldn't the ZX-10 go 105 MPH in second gear or something? How annoying for the street... | ||
| Firemanjim |
Might try re-gearing as alot of thse bikes are so high geared they will do 100mph in first. | ||
| Albert666 |
that's where i'm at, two buells and an rc51 it'd have to be another twin, so probably an rc8r, although i could be tempted by an rsv4 | ||
| Figorvonbuellingham |
Everything I hear about the RC8R is its more or less a dedicated track bike and not very street friendly. I was thinking very hard about it before I decided on the S1K. My other choice was the R1 but I couldnt find one around here. The RSV4 would also be a good choice but again the only one I could find was about 1200 miles away. It was a new 2012 on the floor for like $17K | ||
| Jaredc01 |
I've personally heard nothing but good things about the RC8R on the street and track both, but having never ridden one myself I can't really say for sure either way. The closest dealership to me that has one is a few hours away, but maybe one of these days I'll get out to one of them and see what I think. As for the RSV4, I'd tend to agree... A V4 is about the only thing that I would consider outside a twin. | ||
| Duggram |
Figorvonbuellingham, did you consider the Panigale? | ||
| D_adams |
If it weren't a Buell, I'd go for the RSV4. Bet they'd sound pretty nasty all wound up with the right pipe on it. | ||
| Figorvonbuellingham |
Yeh I looked at a Panigale but it had such a long reach to the bars and Im a short shit. That is one beautiful bike. From what I read about it the mid range is gone they moved all the torque to the upper end. | ||
| Sinnister |
I can't find the sheet from the BMW's, but I did a dyno day with a few of them and they put down the same amount of torque as my 1125. The only difference was when it came and their rev limit. They also had about 38-40 more hp. | ||
| Sir_wadsalot |
A friend of mine works for KTM and got an RC8 loaner for a few weeks....he said it was cooler than a Playstation made out of vaginas. Very track oriented but still more comfortable than a Ducati and not ball cookingly hot. | ||
| Jdugger |
> cooler than a Playstation made out of vaginas LOL! Yea, that's going in the file for later. | ||
| Figorvonbuellingham |
LOL ....how does a guy get an TV8 loaner....? Sign me up. | ||
| Figorvonbuellingham |
RC8 ....Damn predictive text.. | ||
| Jdugger |
There are a few guys in the race club with the RC8. It's not been all that successful outside of Ty Howard, to be honest. I'm not sure why, and I'm not sure that's a fair reflection on the machine, either, it's just a datapoint. To Dean's comments, the RSV4 in race trim is the most amazing sounding thing in the history of mankind. Our lead instructor at RS has one, and just hearing it on the video gives me a stiffy. |
