| Author | Message | ||
     Devondunit |
I bought 8000k HID lamps and two ballasts, tough to find a spot for them... I put them in left pod and ran the wires up to the front, and they work except that sometimes when I turn the key on only one will come on and it's random as to which one. My first thought is that they are too much and overloading something but fuse isn't blowing so.... Don't know. They are h8 35w so the draw shouldn't be an issue. When only one comes on there is a little bzzzt noise up by the headlight not by the ballasts, and they will shine super bright for a millisecond and then go normal. | ||
| Jaredc01 |
Cheap setups will drop out like that. I've had a couple in the past, and they've all had that issue. If you have a warranty on the kit, try sending the bad ballast back for a replacement... Next time, spend a bit more and get some piece of mind with a TRS (The Retrofit Source) kit. http://www.theretrofitsource.com/product_info.php? products_id=3952 | ||
| Reepicheep |
You could also put them on a delay relay, so they generally don't fire up until you have gotten the bike started and running. That might help. | ||
| Nuts4mc |
you need to add capacitor the the input side of each lamp - see here - scroll down for pix http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/290 431/632070.html ....I have a DDM kit installed with this fix ....been working great for years hope this helps | ||
| Jbarros |
Regarding the TRS setup, looks good... but I noticed it's just bulbs, not projectors. Do HID bulbs work ok in the stock setup? | ||
| Jaredc01 |
I don't have HID bulbs in my bike (waiting to do a retro if the Morimoto Mini D2S projectors will fit), though I would bet they're better than the cheap no-name bulbs you see everywhere. They probably do still throw off light above the cutoff, but that's what happens when you put HID bulbs in Halogen reflectors. | ||
| Sprintst |
HID's work great on our bikes, and I've had the best luck with DDM also I put my ballasts beneath the cluster, it's worked well | ||
| Chessm |
ive had DDM in my CR for 2 years now with no issues | ||
| Terrys1980 |
I've been running Xentec HID with no issues. The ballasts easily fit behind the flyscreen. | ||
| Zac4mac |
They probably do still throw off light above the cutoff, but that's what happens when you put HID bulbs in Halogen reflectors. The original halogens and the HIDs I put in Loretta have the light ball in the same place. It's immaterial whether that light ball is from a filament(halogen) or a gas arc(HID) as long as it is in the same place and orientation. The light output has the same shape, just brighter with the HID. Z | ||
| Jaredc01 |
Not true at all. Gas-arc bulbs don't produce the same pattern of light a filament-based light does, so even if the light source is in the exact same position you still won't get a proper cutoff.  Notice the HID bulb actually arches, and is varied across the arc range (as far as temperature goes), while the halogen bulb is more or less completely uniform and straight. If it was simply a matter of putting the output of the HID bulb in the right place for the bulb type, they wouldn't have been an issue from the start (as even the cheap Chinese companies have done this from the start)... As it stands, HIDs in halogen reflectors still are a big problem because of the beam pattern. Also, if what you said were true then 35w 8000K HIDs would be as bright as 55w halogen bulbs, and have a proper cutoff, yet they still throw light everywhere while having nearly the exact same total lumen output. | ||
| Rogue_biker |
Jared, so what are you saying? The problem with putting HID bulbs in reflectors designed for Halogens because the light is "everywhere"? Which in turn makes it less effective and/or an issue with oncoming traffic? I don't know anything about this subject so just wanted to learn. | ||
| Jaredc01 |
Pretty much hit the nail on the head... HID bulbs do throw out a considerably higher amount of light (assuming you stay in the 4300K - 5000K temperature range), and the extra light output will certainly cover the loss from being in a reflector housing (the light that gets thrown outside of the beam pattern). That said, using a HID kit in a reflector housing will throw light above the halogen cutoff line, it will quite probably blind oncoming traffic, and you'll get a general 'blob' of light instead of a nice cutoff where you want it. For comparison, here's a youtube video of the Morimoto Mini D2S bi-xenon setup (the same setup I plan on using if I can verify the dimensions will work)... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVFHxJOh2y0 Now, here's a youtube video of a drop-in HID kit in a reflector housing designed for halogen bulbs... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqxE7-Rj2j8 Pay particular attention to the lights in the second video when he first turns them on. The beam pattern may look 'okay' until you notice that the whole side of the house/barn/garage is lit up with light scatter. That scatter is what blinds everyone else on the road. | ||
| Eleven25r |
All the information that has been posted on this subject is very helpful. But with that being said it also comes down to the light housing. I installed a "standard" 6000K H.I.D kit and have not had any issues. Mainly because the low beams are on the inside of the headlight layout which limits the glare/cutoff issues. (Message edited by Eleven25R on June 30, 2013) |
