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Russmannnn
Posted on Monday, August 13, 2012 - 05:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had a 2010 motor put in under warranty few months ago. Looked at the sight glass after changing the oil dident see a drop. Fired it up oil ran into the sight glass like a river.

Just was wondering why it dose this!
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Dktechguy112
Posted on Monday, August 13, 2012 - 08:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

tip the bike up straight, u should see oil.

The sight glass has oil when u start the bike because the oil is circulating, this doesn't happen when the bike is off.
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Brumbear
Posted on Monday, August 13, 2012 - 08:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a site glass?
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Duphuckincati
Posted on Monday, August 13, 2012 - 09:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

2010's do.
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Froggy
Posted on Monday, August 13, 2012 - 11:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Brumbear, the only glass you have around here is from that Tuthilltown distillery.
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Brumbear
Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2012 - 08:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2m9_KDzv5X8
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Steeleagle
Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2012 - 08:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Per the owners manual for a 2010, if you see zero oil on the sidestand or vertical, you need to add oil:

Oil Level Cold Check
Perform engine oil level Cold Check as follows:
An accurate engine oil check can only be made with the engine at normal operating temperature .
1. With motorcycle on the side stand look at the oil level in the sight gauge. An indicated oil level between the lower and upper lines on the oil level sight gauge is acceptable
for safe engine operation.
2. If there is no oil present in the sight gauge lift the motorcycle to a straight up and down position to see if any oil appears in the sight gauge.
3. If oil appears proceed to the Hot Check.
4. If no oil appears place motorcycle on sidestand and add oil in 3.4 fl oz (0.1 L) increments just until you see oil in the gauge and then proceed to the Hot Check.

Oil Level Hot Check
Perform engine oil level HOT CHECK as follows:
1. To bring the motorcycle to normal operating temperature, ride the motorcycle for a least 10 minutes and 5 miles (8 kilometers).
2. Park the motorcycle on the sidestand while idling and remove the oil fill plug.
3. Idle the engine one (1) minute. Shut off the engine.
4. Read the oil level in the sight gauge.
a. Below the lower line: Add oil in 3.4 fl oz (0.1 L) increments until the level is between the upper and lower lines.
b. Between the upper and lower lines: It is safe to operate the motorcycle.
c. At (or above) the upper line: Drain oil at 6.8 fl oz (0.2 L) increments until the oil level is between the lines.
5. Install the oil fill plug.

...and I do NOT recommend removing the fill plug while the engine is idling (Hot check item 2). It made quite a mess for me!
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Russmannnn
Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2012 - 02:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So if you do the cold check you have to run the bike long enough to get it up to normal temp?

I just find it confusing because if I tip the bike upright I do not see any oil. One I start it it's right at the fill mark.

Should I worry bout this?
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Froggy
Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2012 - 03:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Russ, the hot check method posted above is the proper way to check the oil, anything else may give different results. Go for a short ride and follow those directions.
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Steeleagle
Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2012 - 03:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Russ: What Froggy said. I take the "An accurate engine oil check can only be made with the engine at normal operating temperature." statement as suggesting you do a hot oil check to be accurate. But...BEFORE doing a hot oil check (i.e. running the engine at all) you should do a cold check to make sure if there's ANY oil.
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Brumbear
Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2012 - 05:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

To be honest with my 1125 CR it's an 09 but when I think I need oil the procedure is such a PITA I just drain it and refill then I know I have the 2.7 liters or whatever it is I forget. I know this is expensive but I just think about the alternative.
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Sportster_mann
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2012 - 07:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Definitely put more oil in - the 2010 motors take more oil than previous models, a 2010 motor takes 3.2 litres of oil with filter change.

2008/9 motors take about 2.7 litres.

Previously discussed here -

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/290 431/642710.html
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