| Author | Message | ||
     Sportster_mann |
So, an HD Revolution motor it is then ! | ||
| Sprintst |
Briggs & Stratton | ||
| Kenm123t |
Boogi your spoiled lol | ||
| Dktechguy112 |
1190 cc's is the sweet spot for the motor. Harley wouldn't let buell build a bigger motor then their vrod motor (1129 cc). The vrod motor was originally designed by Erik and porsche. Then harley saw the potential and took it over and turned it into the heavy slow motor it is today. The 1125 motor should have been an 1190 motor from the get go. | ||
| 2kx1 |
Gemini? | ||
| Ratbuell |
Actually, the current Revolution motor is a 1250. Has been for a few years now. | ||
| Redcrrider |
Harley would be my guess, now that would be a surprise. Maybe Ducati. | ||
| Froggy |
Not from what I've heard.  | ||
| Yamahammer490 |
Since we're playing whack-a-mole with engine suppliers... how about Weber? They make high-performance parallel twins. | ||
| Bob_thompson |
I'll tell you EBR could not go wrong by going to Kieshaeffer(sp)corp. who makes Mercury outboard motors. They are right in Wisconsin, have a great reputation for high performance engines and have made some engines for Chevy Corvettes before with a very high skill level to meet some very stringent QC levels. Their racing efforts in boating are legendary. American all the way baby! Do I need a spoiler added to this post. HA! | ||
| Duphuckincati |
Now that they have ties to India, maybe Royal Enfield! Be better than Harley anyway in my book. | ||
| Boogiman1981 |
Ken more than you know  | ||
| Rogue_biker |
Mercury Marine built the legendary Corvette ZR1 motor in the 1990's: 5.7 liter, DOHC, 32-valve 400 bhp V8. | ||
| Kenm123t |
Yes they did Bob I have one great engine heavy but bulletproof | ||
| Kenm123t |
1190 engines I place my bet on EBR inhouse. If you want to make a profit and control you build it yourself. I talked with Erik In the Crotchrocket garage when were tearing into the 1190 motor I saw the look on his face when we found the dropped valve. It was this is my engine what happened? not what did the vendor mess up. After the Vrod and Blast motor Issues I fully expect EBR to have thier own engine line asap | ||
| Finedaddy1 |
Yamahammer490--Good choice, looked like something that I would like to have on a bike. Why stray from Rotax?? They have been in it for quite sometime and I'm sure that little parallel twin the have would be right at home in a Buell designed frame.... You guys that know all the behind the scenes "head candy" should be kicked in the jimmy!  | ||
| Duggram |
They're like a bunch of high school girls gossiping about the prom. You can imagine them squealing with delight every time they hear something new that they've sworn to secrecy and won't share. Is this the Weber you're talking about:  | ||
| Sprintst |
Weber? geeze, we already have Motus and Boss Hog fitting car engines...... | ||
| Finedaddy1 |
The engine on the right (red valve cover) is not a car engine, that's what we're talking about. | ||
| Sprintst |
just looks big can't find the helicon dims to compare 59 kilowatt = 80.21 horsepower [metric] 81 newton meter = 59.74 pound foot length 372 millimeter = 14.64 inch width 318 millimeter = 12.51 inch height 544 millimeter = 21.41 inch weight 50 kilogram = 110.23 lb, lbs (Message edited by sprintst on August 04, 2012) (Message edited by sprintst on August 04, 2012) | ||
| Sir_wadsalot |
Yeah, why stray from Rotax, they're the shizz. Unless EBR builds their own, which would be prohibitavely expensive and unlikely, but kewl. Paralell twins suck. Period. Rotax bought the 1125 design from HD, they build them for EBR. EBR tears down, overbores, and hand reassembles to blueprinted spec. Putting the stock 1125 motors in the production bikes is a no brainer. You guys in the know- thanks for letting us debate this, but the idea of EBR moveing away from Rotax scares me. Although the Mercury parent company thing is a neat idea, moving away from an established performance motorcycle engine builder to an obsure or non-motorcycle source will absolutely scare off the wider market, just like the HD engined bikes did. "Hey guys! We just finally after 30 years built some awesome competative bikes, now we're gonna change everything again, come buy one with a completely different engine!" Doesn't sound like great ad copy to me. | ||
| Curve__carver |
At some point, I would love to see an American bike powered by an I4. Sport twins are great fun on the street, but the RACING success of I4s can't be denied. If you are building an elite racebike you need to take a long hard look at the advantages of an I4. I really like BMWs approach to the S1000RR. | ||
| Duggram |
I'm not so sure about an I4 for EBR. Consider all the money BMW has to spend on the S1000RR and in private hands it is a major flop. Look at Colin Edwards on the BMW powered CRT MotoGP bike. He publicly talks about what a piece of shit that engine is. Look at Larry Pegram in AMA. S1000RR is not a good example of an I4 in racing. And, if you want to talk Yamaha, Suzuki and Kawi, just look at how long they've been at it and imagine the money it would take to match those efforts. | ||
| Curve__carver |
Dug are you kidding??? The S1000RR is a HUGE sales success for BMW & looks fantastic in WSBK. | ||
| Duggram |
No I'm not. Consider that WSBK is a factory team. Look at BSB where the best BMW is 8th with 2 DNF's in 8 races. The CRT's can't get any support from BMW. Look at Edwards and Pegram. As far as sales go, look at the name. But then go look on the S1000RR forum for owners having problems. It might have a great name but it can be a real turd. I'm just considering reality factors not sales puffery. | ||
| Finedaddy1 |
IMO I-4's just don't seem to have the "soul" of a V-Twin, but they can't be denied on the track. | ||
| Froggy |
Good thing just about everything in your post is incorrect | ||
| 46champ |
You know I would like 1 person that really knows stand up and say where the engine is made! Or which of the following is true. 1. We are still using left over 1125 motors from before the shut down and reworking them into 1190's. 2. Rotax is still building the basic engine and EBR is reworking them into 1190's 3. EBR is building the engines here. Somehow all the tooling that Rotax owned has been teleported to Wisconsin. 4. EBR is building the engines here. Only the intellectual information was transfered. It doesn't matter to me but it would be nice to be able to give a difinitive answer when it comes up in conservation. Which is it today and next year not last year. | ||
| Curve__carver |
IMO I-4's just don't seem to have the "soul" of a V-Twin, but they can't be denied on the track. Yes. All my twins have been great fun. ...but, I4s do great on the track and in the showroom. Among the sportbike crowd (smart, dumb, and everywhere in between) I4s are what sell. Triples & twins, as good as they may be, are quickly relegated to niche bike status. I don't know if EBR will ever do it, but I would love to see an American I4 in a model lineup. | ||
| Ratbuell |
You know I would like 1 person that really knows stand up and say where the engine is made! The problem is...it isn't our place to spill the beans. As soon as I'm told otherwise, I'll be more than happy so speak up. As would Court or Froggy or any others "in the know". But until then, I won't violate trust that's been put in me. It is good news. It is an excellent manufacturer. And honestly...this is just so much fun to watch! |
