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Craigsmoney
Posted on Thursday, June 21, 2012 - 01:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Saw a set I might buy, if they will work in my bike.
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Dannybuell
Posted on Thursday, June 21, 2012 - 01:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The 09-10 injectors are an improved design.
some of the Badwebers with 08'ss have switched over.
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Albert666
Posted on Thursday, June 21, 2012 - 04:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i did
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D_adams
Posted on Thursday, June 21, 2012 - 05:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Switched 2 years ago, they will work fine.
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Thefleshrocket
Posted on Saturday, June 23, 2012 - 12:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I thought it was disproved that the '09+ injectors offered any real-world benefit over the '08s.
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Battyone
Posted on Monday, June 25, 2012 - 06:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The update injectors may fix part throttle fueling issues,but they suck big time at high rpm...

Both types flow about the same - 430 and 440cc/min the 2 pairs I had tested - that's at 45psi,not the 59 and 69psi 1125s pump at.

IMO don't bother
But if you do want to I've got a pair lol
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Noobuel
Posted on Monday, June 25, 2012 - 06:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I thought it was the atomization pattern that was improved, not the flow volume?
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Stirz007
Posted on Monday, June 25, 2012 - 06:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"I thought it was disproved that the '09+ injectors offered any real-world benefit over the '08s."

Fleshy - do you remember where the link is, or where you got that info? EBR was selling the 'improved' injectors for a while, but it now appears that they are no longer in the on-line catalogue...


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Battyone
Posted on Tuesday, June 26, 2012 - 06:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yes they changed the spray pattern...from the original 4 hole rectangular pattern to a "V" shape

10cc between pairs will be natural variation.
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Thefleshrocket
Posted on Thursday, June 28, 2012 - 06:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Afraid I don't remember where I saw that about the '08s not being any better than the '09s. I just vaguely remember reading it in a thread here.
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Battyone
Posted on Friday, June 29, 2012 - 06:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Having dyno'd with both I can tell you that the later injectors cost 5hp at peak.

To get any gains-anywhere- from the new injector took a little time...we gained a couple of ft/lb in the midrange.

As a direct swap I would doubt whether there would be any improvement at all.Only losses.

At the end of the day the best "fix" for 1125s is more fuel. So spend your money on a better ecm or tuning software.
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