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Archive through May 27, 2012Pmjolly30 05-27-12  10:44 pm
         

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Father_of_an_era
Posted on Sunday, May 27, 2012 - 11:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No, it didn't come with instruction but there is a youtube video that one of our fellow bad webers created about a month ago or so. That is what I used as a guide. The only thing I can think of that may be wrong is the new actuator cup (the larger piece) did not come with O-rings for the outer diameter. So, I used the original ones that were on the stock actuator. They fit snug enough so, I didn't see an issue with using them. Maybe they may be an issue after all?

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Pmjolly
Posted on Sunday, May 27, 2012 - 11:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hmmmm. Do you have a link to the video? My revised OEM slave cylinder came with all new o-rings.
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Father_of_an_era
Posted on Monday, May 28, 2012 - 12:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sure do.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCEetGIc9ks&feature =youtu.be
Also, if you want to check out that craftsman tool I told you about, here it is.
http://www.kmart.com/craftsman-27pc-max-axess-1-4- in-dr-socket-wrench/p-00932818000P
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Zac4mac
Posted on Monday, May 28, 2012 - 10:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I installed the EBR upgrade kit for a guy a couple of weeks ago.
Piston had new rings but liner used the old ones.
I don't have a Mighty-Vac so I had to pump the lever. a lot.

FOAE - just keep pumping the lever and keep a finger on the spherical nut.
It took several minutes for me but I finally felt the nut move.
I didn't use the bleeder, just squeeze and hold the lever a bit, then watch a few tiny bubbles come out on release.

Once I got decent pressure and nut-movement, I burped the bleeder a couple of times.
Then I tied the lever, pulled in, overnight.
Perfect clutch the next morning.

BTW, this guy also brought me the EBR clutch springs to install - holy crap they're stiff!!!

Zack

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Father_of_an_era
Posted on Monday, May 28, 2012 - 03:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There is a different spring? I wonder if I should have looked into that as well? I feel like I have been pumping the lever for days now. This is friggin annoying!!!
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Father_of_an_era
Posted on Monday, May 28, 2012 - 04:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Zac, though I didn't get the spherical nut to move throughout all of the lever pumping, I did ty rap the lever back for the weekend (almost 3 days) and still have nothing to show for it. How can you tell if the master cylinder is bad? maybe this is the cause of my problems??? It would be odd though since everything was fine prior to the new clutch actuator. Like I said previously, when I take the inner piston out, I can hear a slight gurgle when I push the lever in and out so, there is some action going on. Maybe it just isn't enough? I think that I am going to use some plumber's tape on the valve and banjos next.
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Father_of_an_era
Posted on Monday, May 28, 2012 - 06:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Got it!!!! Well, after much info from all of you and hours of fumbling in my garage, I finally got her to prime. After reading on here about using plumbers tape, I tried it on the bleeder valve. Then, after about 3000 pumps, I decided to use the mighty vac again. I pumped the hell out of that thing and it finally started to take. Once it started, took of the pump and used the clutch lever and bleeder valve to finish the job. Holly crap, I knew it had to be something simple...... Anyway, thanks to all of you, you were pointing me in the right direction, I just needed to open my eyes a bit wider. You all are great and I am very appreciative. Well, time to take her for a spin.
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Tmchcrk
Posted on Monday, May 28, 2012 - 08:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



When your done riding anyways!!!!!
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Father_of_an_era
Posted on Monday, May 28, 2012 - 09:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh, you know I'm drinking one tonight!
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Pmjolly
Posted on Monday, May 28, 2012 - 10:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

YAY! FINALLY!! I don't know why it was so difficult.
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Father_of_an_era
Posted on Monday, May 28, 2012 - 10:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't know either but I'm glad its done! lol The little bastard wouldn't prime no matter how many times I pumped that clutch handle. As soon as I got a little fluid out with the mighty vac, I damn near pissed myself I was so happy.
I must say the clutch feels very nice. She rode so nice and shifted so smooth, it makes all that frustration worth it (almost)! At least I walked away with more knowledge than I had and I can probably trouble shoot that entire clutch system now. I couldn't say that before.
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Kevmean
Posted on Friday, June 01, 2012 - 02:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Do NOT use plumbers tape on the hydraulic fittings and bleed nipple, the banjo is designed to seal on it's copper washers if it doesn't either fit new or anneal the old washers to soften them. Bleed nipples are designed to seal on the taper at the end and NOT via the threads ,putting tape on could prevent it seating on the taper correctly ; )
I've just fitted the new Oberon slave to my CR and it is a very very well made piece of kit with proper hydraulic seals one on the piston and more important the other smaller seal is fitted in the sleeve, both seals also have back up teflon guide rings to make for smoother operation along the lines of normal hydraulic cylinders. Also it has an hexagon on the rear so you can use a socket to turn it as you push it into the housing if you havn't quite lined the recess up correctly...... it is guaranteed for life + all seal are available as spares if they were to be needed and also comes complete with new external 'O' Rings and copper banjo washers.
Clutch action is lighter and smoother and more important the bite point is improved.
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Father_of_an_era
Posted on Saturday, June 02, 2012 - 12:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Great information, thanks Kevmean.
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