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2thepoint
Posted on Saturday, April 21, 2012 - 10:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have been trying to sell my 2008 1125R for the past nine months. I have tried listing it on craigslist multiple times and lowering the price every time I list it. I have not had one person call or come look at that the bike.

I am starting to think its the area I live in that causing the problem. I live in Northern Minnesota and there is not a huge demand for sport bikes. Or is the problem that the Buell reputation was hurt when harley decided to stop production? I have even tried including the factory warranty that is good until August 2014.

I might just end up keeping the bike in storage a couple years and then trying to sell it again. Its seems like older bikes are holding there value way better than ones that are a few years old.

Anybody have tips for selling an 1125R?
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2thepoint
Posted on Saturday, April 21, 2012 - 10:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Also what should I be asking or expect to get for a 2008 with 3000 miles, warranty and jardine exhaust? Maybe my expectations are too high.

(Message edited by 2thepoint on April 21, 2012)
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Sprintst
Posted on Saturday, April 21, 2012 - 11:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

um, EBAY?
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46champ
Posted on Saturday, April 21, 2012 - 11:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think you should just ride the bike. The reason you couldn't sell it was probably all three reasons. Sometimes if something doesn't sell and is advertised all the time buyers start getting worried that something is wrong with the bike. Also when does your ridding season start and end, you may have started trying to sell at the end of the season or when most people think they see the end of the season. My personal feeling selling in the middle of the winter can seem like a fools errand.
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Ratgin
Posted on Saturday, April 21, 2012 - 11:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Bad Rep has made them VERY hard to sale or even trade in up here.

Dealers are offering 1/2 book price "as they will sit on the floor forever".
Some have outright refused to take it as a trade in period.

Nothing feels as good as being offered 3k for your 2009 Buell that you have $13000 into.

Sooner have it rot in my garage then give it away.

All i ask for is 1 riding season that its not forever in the shop however seeing as the speedo sensor died on the first ride this season that isnt about to happen.

Damn bike, Sorry but i hate it this week. Next week i may love it again

(Message edited by ratgin on April 21, 2012)
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Two_seasons
Posted on Sunday, April 22, 2012 - 12:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here is what I think of the 1125r.

First, the bike is reliable. Little quirks, like clutch weep ($99 fix), parasitic battery drain (kill switch to off to fix), some ecm/can issues (can be $xxx to fix), and a couple with bad cams (can be $xxx to fix).

Relatively straight forward to do the 20,40,60km service intervals from what what I've read. Or take it to the dealer.

I think you will find that the value will vary little over the next couple of years. Mine was bought seven months after the fire sale. I paid $7,800 out the door with 31 miles. Today, I've got about 9,500 miles and it's worth a little less than 6k.

If you financed, you feel cheated. Much more if you bought at list 6 months or less before the shutdown.
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Geedee
Posted on Sunday, April 22, 2012 - 04:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

God doesn't want you to sell it.

Listen to him.
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Dktechguy112
Posted on Sunday, April 22, 2012 - 06:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

In Cali they go quick.

I talked to a guy in San diego, he says he is selling 1125's for 6-7k.

I think its your location.
Try ebay.
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Rpm4x4
Posted on Sunday, April 22, 2012 - 09:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I agree with Geedee.
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Tom_b
Posted on Sunday, April 22, 2012 - 12:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i agree with a couple of others..LOCATION and maybe asking price. Around here one with the miles would sell for between 6500 and 7000 dollars. i bought mine last year with less thn 1000 miles for 6500 dolars. at the time iwas having a hard time even finding one for sale in decent shape
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Father_of_an_era
Posted on Sunday, April 22, 2012 - 05:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I purchased my 08R in 08 and I don't feel angry about it at all. It has been a great bike and is a blast every time I take it out. Though, I have not had the issues that some others have. I love my R!
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Timebandit
Posted on Sunday, April 22, 2012 - 06:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A lot depends on price and location.

I helped a friend in TX buy up a 2009 R a couple of months ago, minty with ~3400 miles for $4700. Personally, I thought that was a fair price and that anything over $5k was unrealistic. Some of your failure could be associated with asking price -- I don't know because you haven't mentioned what you were asking.

Yes, HDMC killing BMC was bad for everyone's resale value. Bike shoppers are smart to worry about parts availability for a brand that's extinct.

Another thing that could be hurting you is the generalized perception by people who are minimally informed (owners of other brands) that all the 1125 bikes are lemons. I think the 2009 stator problem gave the 1125 a black eye, and that not everyone out there realizes this is a year-specific problem that does not effect the 2008. Then there's the problem with clutch weep, rotor nuts coming off, bad injection maps, horror stories about crappy dealer service departments, etc. These sorts of problems get talked-up on this forum to the point that anyone who is not a Buell owner who might be interested in the bike is probably scared away by all the negative threads. Sometimes too much information can be a bad thing.

As far as the stator problem goes, I think it's a non-issue now that the EBR rotors have become available, but it's going to take quite some time before owners of other brands realize this. The first step will be for us to gather some evidence that the EBR fix works. The second step will be for people to stop complaining about stators. Until that happens, we're stuck with a lemon's reputation, and that hurts resale in a big way.

The bright side is that if you're a buyer, you can get a good deal on a great bike right now. It looks like there's a fix for the stator problem, and resale values still reflect the lack of a fix.

Just my $0.02.
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Rogue_biker
Posted on Sunday, April 22, 2012 - 08:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's a Buell and most people know absolutely NOTHING about the brand or the bike. If they do know, it's usually hearsay from people who have never owned it. It's the Buell curse/blessing. It's a blessing if you're buying it and like it. It's a curse if you're selling.

Then there's the economy. Even though the US economy is getting stronger and swinging upwards, it only applies to NEW. That's because it's easy to get a loan for new bikes. For used bikes, it's much harder, especially if it's not being sold at a H-D dealership that does not offer financing for a Buell. Not a lot of people have $5k in cash. If they do, they'll most likely use that to buy a car or a new bike.

Finally, yeah your location is not a sportbike hot spot.

Keep the bike. Ride it when the weather is nice. Find another source of funds. A motorcycle is NOT a good source of liquidity no matter what kind it is.
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Duphuckincati
Posted on Sunday, April 22, 2012 - 08:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Re: the Buell reputation, 1125 or not, the Sportster motored models are generally not too highly regarded in general as witnessed by how cheap they are on the used market and like it or not our bikes are from the same family. So we are cheapened by association.
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2thepoint
Posted on Sunday, April 22, 2012 - 09:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for advice so far.

I don't think I am asking to much, with the warranty I am under $6000.

I am not selling the bike because I need money. I am selling because I mainly ride with my Dad now and he has a hertiage softail. Its not much fun riding the 1125R at the speeds my Dad cruises at. Also my wife started riding with me and sucked the little fun that was left while cruising at 60mph right out of the bike.

Living in Northern MN I dont want two bikes for the 3 or 4 months I get to ride. I hope to sell the 1125R and get a Victory.
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Sprintst
Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2012 - 12:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

E B A Y M O T O R S . C O M


Why be restricted to your market?

My buddy flew from Virginia to North Dakota to buy a Buell, and rode it home
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Syonyk
Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2012 - 02:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am not selling the bike because I need money. I am selling because I mainly ride with my Dad now and he has a hertiage softail. Its not much fun riding the 1125R at the speeds my Dad cruises at. Also my wife started riding with me and sucked the little fun that was left while cruising at 60mph right out of the bike.

Quite fair. Though if you throw some bar risers, Lightning or Ulysses pegs, and a nice seat on it, I understand they relax quite a bit.

Is your wife riding with you two-up, or on her own bike? Either way, I can definitely understand not enjoying the 1125 as much.

Have you considered trying to trade for a nice Lightning or Ulysses? A Ulysses is a good two-up bike, and doesn't demand the same speed that the 1125 really prefers.

I'm considering doing much the same, since my riding has changed a lot between when I purchased the 1125 and now. My fiancee usually comes with on rides now (on her own bike - though supposedly the back of the 1125 isn't *that* uncomfortable), and it definitely involves a different riding style. I'm paying attention to how she's doing and trying to avoid leaving her in the dust, instead of really being able to open up the 1125 & flow through curves. If I'm honest, it's less enjoyable than just riding alone as far as pure riding goes. I enjoy the trips together, and I enjoy the destinations, but there's not the same "F*** the world, I'm going to nail this road hard" bit going on.
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Rogue_biker
Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2012 - 02:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That's one reason I don't ride w/my SO. I don't like worrying about other people and waiting too much. If she wants to go, we're taking the car! : )
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Syonyk
Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2012 - 02:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I really just need a bike better suited to lazy touring paces. I'm considering trading the 1125 for a Ulysses for this reason. Or, more likely, finish the transformation into a "BuellMW" as I've heard it described - bar risers, comfy seat, hard luggage. I've already got the dropped pegs.

I mean, I'm running Road 3s on the 1125... it can't really be *that* much of a curvy road bike anymore!
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Timebandit
Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2012 - 03:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've never liked riding two up because the passenger on the pillion adds dead weight to the bike in the worst possible location. Not a big deal if you're riding a barcalounger, but a big deal if you're riding a sportbike. On all of the bikes that I own, the rear seat isn't very comfortable and passengers don't like to stay there for long. IMO that's a good thing... it provides incentive to convince the SO to learn to ride her own bike.

BuellMW? LOL! It's not as if all BMW are flying armchairs. The new 1000 pretty much breaks the armchair mould that BMW fell into when they stopped producing the R1150RS in favor of the R1150RT for the American market.
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Stargazer
Posted on Tuesday, May 01, 2012 - 10:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Its more your location and to a lesser extent the killing off of the company. The proof is in the pudding..US sales in sporties= in line fours more than V twins. Either keep it, ride it enjoy it... or haul it to Europe and sell it in a fat minute.
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Sprintst
Posted on Wednesday, May 02, 2012 - 07:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

PM some details

I think I just totaled my bike out last week I'm still in the hospital

I'll be looking for one here soon
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Dannybuell
Posted on Wednesday, May 02, 2012 - 09:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sprintst ~ How are you doing?
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Sprintst
Posted on Wednesday, May 02, 2012 - 09:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Five broken ribs
two small brain bleeds
couple days in ICU
been in the hospital for a week now

still very painful to move my upper back up

Overall pretty okay
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Dannybuell
Posted on Thursday, May 03, 2012 - 01:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sprintst ~ I am sorry to hear of your misfortune. Heal quickly. Is there anything we can do for you?
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Dnlink
Posted on Thursday, May 03, 2012 - 01:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm in Southwestern Ohio and have a 2008 with a 2009 IC and EBR clutch actuator kit. Other wise stock, 218XX miles. I would sell for $4700.
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Sprintst
Posted on Friday, May 04, 2012 - 12:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Got out of the hospital yesterday, just trying to recoup.

Insurance should be checking mine out early next week. I'm guessing it's totaled, so I'll prolly buy it for a track or parts bike, and just get another.

I'll think about other bikes, but frankly, I'm not sure what else would work as well for me. The 1125R really was a great fit for me.

Factor in the value, and it's untouchable, imo
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Rogue_biker
Posted on Friday, May 04, 2012 - 04:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Very sorry to hear SprintST. Heal quickly.
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