| Author | Message | ||
     Stlrdn |
went to get my bike yesterday from the dealer, its pretty much bin there for 2 months this year! and it is is running worse than before! ill start from the begining, i bought a jardine slip on in 2010, the bike ran fine for a while, then it started to pop at a steady rpm, kinda like a lean pop, then it started serging and it had a stumble at 4000 rpm, so i put the stock pipe back on, it still wasnt right! on cold start it would run good, once it warmed up, at idle there was a stumble! it seemed to get a real throaty sound to it! i guess i should have taken it in then but i didnt. then in january 2011 i bought the racing preprogrammed ecm and put it and the slipon back on, i reset the tps and let the bike idle for ten minutes! which ive done several times now! the bike was still popping at a steady rpm, but there was no serging and there was no stumble at 4000 rpm, and of course there are no codes! then i was told it could be the fuel pump so i started looking at the pressure, it was fine while running, but when ya shut it down it would drop off to 40 kpa,they put a new fuel pump in it, i got the bike back and it was running a little better that same day i checked the codes, it had codes 1 was comm error and the other was a fuel pressure error so it went back to the dealer, it was the fuel rail pressure sensor! 3 weeks for that! and that was yesterday when i went to get it! its still at the dealer because the warranty is up!the tech told me they didnt know what the comm error was! well if he dont know, i sure as hell dont know! im a driver not a tech! i rode it yesterday, it seem worsre than before! the bike takes off great but when you hold a steady rpm, its almost like someone is pushing on the front of the bike, then it starts to serge, then the popping starts! you crack the throttle and it takes off like a bat out of hell! so i went back to the dealer, and pretty much lost it!then i showed him what it was doing at an idle! i reved it up to about 5000 rpm and held it there, it started to back fire and stumble, then the rpm just dropped 1000 and back fired! this is where it gets good! to extend the warranty is 1400 bucks, that gives me 5 years!the guy tried to tell me how much time and money they spent on this bike! like its my fault! if they had of told me when i bought the bike that their techs werent being sent to school and didnt know anything about these bikes, i wouldnt have bought it! now i have to take the stock pipe to them so they can talk to hd of canada, hope fully they can get something done about this, dont take offence to this, but now i know why in ever stepped foot into a harley davidson dealer before and i will never buy another american made bike again! ok sorry! now people have told me to denoid the bike, what does that solinoid actually do, and will it cause the serging and backfiring on my bike! sorry bout the novel! but i wanted to explain as much detail as i can remember! im pissed and enough of this B S. thanks for listening to me vent! | ||
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| Froggy |
I did a quick spell check and broke it into paragraphs to make it easier to read Went to get my bike yesterday from the dealer, it’s pretty much been there for 2 months this year! And it is running worse than before! I’ll start from the beginning, i bought a jardine slip on in 2010, the bike ran fine for a while, then it started to pop at a steady rpm, kind of like a lean pop, then it started surging and it had a stumble at 4000 rpm, so i put the stock pipe back on, it still wasn’t right! On cold start it would run good, once it warmed up, at idle there was a stumble! It seemed to get a real throaty sound to it! I guess i should have taken it in then but i didn’t. | ||
| Froggy |
The intake solenoid is a device designed to help the bike pass emissions. Under some conditions it will partly close the air intake to reduce noise, and as result will reduce power output. The EBR ECM does not actuate the solenoid, so even if the solenoid was the culprit you wouldn't experience the same issues with the Race ECM. The solenoid can still do things like bind on the throttle cables, so in general it is recommended to remove it. Regarding your issue, it does sound like it may be fuel related, possibly an issue with one of the fuel injectors. If the dealer took their head out of their ass, they can look at it like any other bike and figure it out. Your bike isn't the only bike in the world to ever have a problem with the fuel system, and if you ignore the brand names you will see they are all work pretty much the same. | ||
| Avalaugh |
Should of come here first, I had almost exact same symptoms, turned out to be blocked/dirty injectors, bought 2 new ones from EBR job done. Mine is 08 bike so fitted the new style ones and been great ever since. I read all posts, and everybody hates this bike if it goes into the dealer. Hate the dealer not the bike, buy a manual, ask on here, do the work yourself, save a fortune and learn along the way. Warranty work is not worth the agro IMO | ||
| Mountainstorm |
I got lucky and my service guy happened to be a Buell Racer and own an 1125r and know what's up with it. Sadly, he's no longer there and now they have no one to work on it that knows about it for real. So I stopped taking it in. I have the maximum strength extended service plan, but unless something terrible happens chances are it will not be used in the future. Contrary to all the horror stories posted here my bike has been almost trouble free except for the front rotor that seems to turn to crap after 15K miles. I did get the upgrade to the clutch piston, and I do see a bit of weep but I just ride it. People worry so much about all sorts of niggling details when what they really need to do is ride the bike. The more it sits the more trouble it will cause you. | ||
| Stlrdn |
thanks guys! im just frustrated! its going back to stock on tuesday, they dont wanna listen to me about what ive learned on here, maybe if they would let go of their pride that they have and listen a little more to me, i could have had my bike back sooner! and been riding for those 2 months! they keep telling me there isnt enough kms on it to have problem with the injectors! or anything else for that matter! a while back i ran some injector cleaner through it! it seemed to run better! but hopefully it runs like crap when put it back to stock, they keep blaming the pipe and the ecm. i love this bike with the mods on it! going back to stock is gonna suck! but at least i can still ride! would there be codes for a blocked injector? thanks froggy, i know it was a jumbled mess of words! well i saw snow on friday, ill just have to wait till spring now! thanks for the info! i appriciate it! | ||
| Avalaugh |
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/290 431/620853.html?1301693191 Happy reading | ||
| Froggy |
Yes and no on the codes. I don't recall anything about failed injector codes, but if it isn't spraying right, it can cause the AFV to increase to compensate, and eventually throw an AFV related code like in Avalagh's link. | ||
| Ratgin |
they dont wanna listen to me about what ive learned on here A direct result of the HD Canada attitude. They actually told me that people post they saw aliens on forums as well when i took mine in for an issue. They then ate crow when the info turned out to be correct. | ||
| Stlrdn |
ok. well hopefully i can get the dealer to check the injectors tomorrow, before they start to put my bike back to stock! avalaugh, thanks for the info, i dont really understand alot of it! but if i can get the dealer to read it, it might help too! but they will probably try to tell me they dont understand it either! but maybe if they do know what you are saying, they will maybe believe me that its not the ecm and pipe, and that other people are having the same kind of troubles, not just me! thanks for the info again! hopefully it works for me! | ||
| Stlrdn |
i talked to hd canada a while ago and he said they couldnt do anything for me unless the bike was stock! thats crap, i bought the pipe from the dealer and got the ecm from buell, its not as though i went and put something on there that wasnt meant for the bike! then the dealer shouldnt sell ya stuff like that if they know they wont warranty it! where about in canada are you ratgin? i still havent seen one of these bikes. either a r or cr! | ||
| Ratgin |
Warranty needs to be stock unless sold as new with the parts on it. Thats standard and have no issue with them requesting that the bike be stock. The bike is a mistress , fun at times and a pain in the ass the rest. Not many left on the road anymore. Of the 3 in my area two were traded away and then there is mine (below)  | ||
| Green1 |
Of the three times mine has gone in for warranty work i told them what was wrong with it,2 of the 3 times they have been on the phone to HD Canada and after a week or so they agreed with me and ordered parts.Third time they just believed me and ordered the parts.I have the 3 manuals and research here and other sites,usually its not something new. I'm on the East Coast of Canada in a smaller City with 3 1125Rs i know of,i don't expect the dealer to spend money to keep techs trained on a discontinued model but i do expect them to fix it when i have a problem under warranty in a reasonable amount of time. | ||
| Zac4mac |
I hate to say it, but my best advice is get the shop manual suite and fix it yourself. Last warranty work I had done, I told them the problem and solution when I took Loretta in - new fuel pump. A week later, they told me I needed a fuel pump and did I want to pay for "overnight"? I was pissed they had the nerve to ask that. I told them if they wanted it off their lift, they could pay. they did. I was even working at the dealership then... I do all my own work on her now, waaay past warranty coverage. Zack | ||
| Stlrdn |
just got the bike back, bin at the dealer for 8 months! they said there was a recall on the crank sensor trigger and stator. they replaced the flywheel and stator! they also put new 02 sensors and plugs on it! they put a new fuel pump and fuel rail sensor last year! go out to start the bike, i checked the diag mode and it has a fuel pressure system error on it! po 193. i had the bike piped and a race ecm on it last year, the dealer put it back to stock! i picked it up on saturday,rode it stock for a couple of days and noticed the fuel pump didnt cycle when i turned the key on or shut the bike off! should have looked at the diag mode then! i put the ecm and pipe back on it on monday and noticed it still wasnt cycling! now i have this code, i dont know if its historic or live! the bike still pops a little but not near as bad as before! |
