| Author | Message | ||
     Ohsoslow |
1) 2009 2) CR 3) stock paper 4) mobile 1 20W50 5) stock 6) NO 7) Stock 8) Stock 9) 8 miles 10) 13.5 11) One 12) 170 13) 55MPH/ not sure of RPM what ever it is in 6th@55 14) moderate amount 15) 91 plus 16) denoied 17) 3086 | ||
| Pwillikers |
1) 2009 2) cr 3) stock 4) Shell Rotella T6 full synth 5-40 5) stock 6) Y 7) stock (replaced at 9.1K miles) 8) stock 9) 25 mi. 10) 12.4 at idle ~ 13.8 at speed 11) 1.1 12) 190 13) 4.5 RPM 14) never 15) premium 16) none 17) 6.5K mi. I live in TX and often ride in temperatures greater than 100. | ||
| Ducttguy13 |
1) 2009 2) 1125CR 3) Stock 4) H-D Sync 3 20w50 5) Stock 6) Yes 7) Stock 8) Stock 9) 30mi 10) 13.5 11) 1 12) 190 13) 5000rpm 14) 10minutes 15) 91 16) Stock 17) 2600mi | ||
| Boogiman1981 |
1) 2008 2) 1125R 3) Stock 4) Mobil1 10w-40 4T racing 5) Stock 6) N N/A 7) Factory replaced 1 time 8) Custom 9) 45 min 10) 13+ 11) 1 12) 200 13) 75mph/4500rpm? 14) 1x per day 15) 93 10% ethanol 16) none 17) 800 | ||
| Buellrider66 |
Just had 3rd stator failure, fortunately dealer had parts in stock. Only down 2 days. Returned bike to OEM (except air filter). I'll ride it this year as stock, then add one component at a time see if that helps narrow down.  1) Year - 09 2) Model - R 3) Air filter type - K&N 4) Oil type and weight 20w50 Full SYN 5) ECM - Erik Buell Racing 6) Harness upgrade Y/N - Y 7) Regulator OEM 8) Exhaust system - FMF 9) Average length of ride - 40mi 10) Average voltage on ride - 13.8 11) Number of times starting bike on average ride - 3 12) Average Core Temp on ride - 185 13) Average Speed/ RPM on ride -50 / 5K 14) How often are you at parade speeds. (stuck in traffic) - 15% 15) Fuel rating used 91-93 16) Other air/ engine mods/ electrical mods. 17) Mileage before failure 3400 - 7000 - 10200 | ||
| Dktechguy112 |
One thing to add to the list is how much oil do you add? Some just dump in three quarts, or some like me add and then do a hot check and bring the oil up halfway on the oil site glass. I am wondering if there is a correlation between oil level and stator life. | ||
| Kicka666 |
1) 09 2) CR 3) K&N 4) Motul 5100 5) Erik Buell Racing, O.S.B 6) Y 7) Oem 8) FMF 9) 200kms 10) 13.5 to 14.1 always 11) 3 or 4 12) 76 to 81 deg celcius 13) 80kms 5k rpm 14) Bugger all 15) 98 ron 16) Stock 17) No failure touch wood. I put 3.3ltrs of oil with filter change @ hot check | ||
| Dannybuell |
Kicka666 liter to quart conversion 1 liter = 1.05668821 US quarts 1.05668821 * 3.3 = 3.487 quarts. you are putting in 3.5 quarts? is there any evidence of oil around the breather tube? | ||
| Kicka666 |
Danny no oil @ breather tube, I have 5 1125's I service for customers/mates all get the same amount of oil as mine, 2 of those have had stator failures & one dealer blamed the EbR race Ecm ???. | ||
| Jcjohnson33 |
Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2011 - 03:11 am: 1) Year - 2009 2) Model - 1125R 3) Air filter type - K&N 4) Oil type and weight - Mobil 1 20W/50 syn 5) ECM - stock 6) Harness upgrade - Yes 7) Regulator - stock 8) Exhaust system - Saron 9) Average length of ride - 70 mil round trip 10) Average voltage on ride - 13.8 - 14.2 (13.1-13.8) today 11) Number of times starting bike on average ride - 4 12) Average Core Temp on ride - was at 187-200 today 13) Average Speed/ RPM on ride 80mph/5-6000rpm 14) How often are you at parade speeds. (stuck in traffic) - split lanes 25-50mph 15) Fuel rating used - 91oct 16) Other air/ engine mods/ electrical mods - powerizer fuel controller 17) Mileage before failure - approx 5-6,000 (10,000miles) today Not sure if the dealer replaced the r/r when they replaced the stator. They did the harness upgraded at the same time. I have 16,000 miles now. Guess I jinxed myself I just filled this thing out on the 29th and now I lost my 2nd stator today on the way to work. | ||
| Aj2010 |
1) 2009 2) 1125 R 3) Stock 4) Harley semi-synthetic 5) stock ECM 6) Yes 7) Stock 8) Stock with re-angled outlet pipes 9) 150 Km's 10) 14.4 11) 3 12) ? 13) 100 Km's 4000 rpm 14) not often, only ride in town on my way out of town. 15) premium grade 16) headlight, rh low through AUX relay lh low off when high beams on. relays including solenoid re-wired (mostly to keep headlights off until the engine is running, wired through kill switch) LED tail light and LED front park/running lights 17) aprox 7000 Km's | ||
| Rt_performance |
i'll play along... 1) Year 2009 2) Model 1125r 3) Air filter type k/n since 9 miles 4) Oil type and weight Mobile one v twin 20w50 5) ECM Erik Buell Racing Race for Barker 6) Harness upgrade Y/N : y and VR took a crap 100 miles later. But has been Removed now 7) Regulator : Stock x2. for the first 10,000 miles now shindo f00 8) Exhaust system : Barker since 9 miles 9) Average length of ride 200 miles 10) Average voltage on ride 13.9 11) Number of times starting bike on average ride . lots normally cut off at long lights and i am a smoker so lets say 10 12) Average Core Temp on ride .No clue 13) Average Speed/ RPM on ride . good one 4-11,500 mainly in the 6k range 14) How often are you at parade speeds. (stuck in traffic) 25% of the time 15) Fuel rating used 91+ always 16) Other air/ engine mods/ electrical mods. HID low beams 17) Mileage before failure Mine never failed but i pulled it and had it rewound at 10,000. This is tough Mine never faild in the first 10,000 but i did have a VR fail 100 miles after the Recall around 3000 miles. This winter i removed the recall had custom rewind rewind it and put the f00 regulator on it. I road home from nc to mi yesterday 713 miles and it was hot!!!mid to high 80's 80 % of the ride stopped twice for food 40 minutes each and gas every 160 miles . Still charging 13.9+ | ||
| Tbowdre |
1) Year = 2009 2) Model = 1125R 3) Air filter type = OEM 4) Oil type and weight = Mobil 1 20W50 5) ECM = Erik Buell Racing for FMF slip on, pump gas 6) Harness upgrade Y/N = NO removed 3000miles ago 7) Regulator = OEM 8) Exhaust system = FMF 9) Average length of ride = 200miles 10) Average voltage on ride = 13.4 11) Number of times starting bike on average ride = 2-3 times 12) Average Core Temp on ride = 180 13) Average Speed/ RPM on ride = 70-80mph, 5000rpm 14) How often are you at parade speeds. (stuck in traffic) = never... always lane split 15) Fuel rating used = 91 octane 16) Other air/ engine mods/ electrical mods. = run with inner airbox cover off, city X outter cover, little computer fan blows on R/R 17) Mileage before failure = 4000miles R/R, 5000miles first stator, 7000 miles installed new battery due to message "system voltage" when turning over to start. (still getting message) 8000miles second stator current state with 3000 logged miles, OEM R/R, custom rewind stator, no harness. volage readings vary from 13-13.8. Runs great, still get message "system voltasge" when turning over to start. | ||
| Hillis3 |
1) 2009 2) CR 3) Stock 4) HD syn oil 5) Stock ECM 6) Harness upgrade - Yes 7) Regulator - stock 8) Exhaust system - Stock 9) 70 miles 10) 13.8 11) 4 - # times starting bike on avg ride 12) 190 - Average Core Temp on ride 13) 70MPH / 4500RPM 14) 20% at parade speeds. 15) Fuel rating used - 93 16) No mods 17) Mileage before failure - 6500 miles | ||
| Finedaddy1 |
1) '09 2) CR 3) K&N @ 5428mi 4) Amzoil 20/50w 5) Erik Buell Racing ECM @ 5428mi 6) Yes @ 2403mi, removed @4896mi 7) Compufire 55402 @4896mi 8) Stock 9) 120mi 10) 14.5 11) 5 12) 177° 13) 60mph / 4800rpm 14) Seldom 15) Premium 16) De-noid, Compufire R/R 17) 6120 | ||
| Posplayr |
Hey everybody, here is what I think is a similar problem to your 09 1125R stator problem. Aprilla apparently needed more electrical power out so they stepped up the rotor power; yes rotors are sized in terms of power because there is a maximum output current due to the magnetics saturation levels. "the new generator assembly (370W vs the old 500W)" http://www.apriliaforum.com/forums/showpost.php?p= 2859249&postcount=30 the thermal problems at say 370W were marginal and going to 500W was smoking the stator. Anyway I think this is the same kind of difference between your 08 and 09 setups. | ||
| Mickeyq |
OK, so reading that post from the Aprilia forum link I gather that these Rotax engines have an identical problem. I guess what I am saying is that Rotax is ultimately responsible for an inherent flaw in design and not Buell or HD. Any legal opinions on this? | ||
| Dannybuell |
Mickeyq +1 google merchantability. Air cooled bikes are not good parade bikes, they overheat. A water cooled bike that melts in parade mode or in traffic is not merchantable. | ||
| Mickeyq |
DB, I just see a pattern for a problem for a similar design from the same manufacturer. I think a sharp legal eagle could piece together a class-action. Off that topic, I was also thinking of casting a "heat-sink" stator cover. I work with computers and CPUs reach exorbitant temps and with a good heat-sink they function efficiently--even when "overclocked". Casting an aluminum cover with finning might help disperse heat...just a crazy idea. | ||
| Dannybuell |
Mickeyq - cool idea, a dual purpose unit that also serves as a crash cover. | ||
| Sparky |
I proposed an idea for a heat sink/finned radiator for the stator cover a few months ago. An external add-on form-fitting radiator might work but wouldn't likely be as effective as a redesigned finned stator cover though. | ||
| Jcjohnson33 |
Another question. I have not had to pull my stator cover as of yet but is the rotor on the 1125 a solid unit? If so wouldn't a vented one similar to the ones compufire sells allow better oil pick up and cooling for the stator? Just a thought I had. | ||
| Jcjohnson33 |
Also is the ambient temps that we ride in have any impact on the stator failing? As in hotter climates vs cooler climates? | ||
| Kinder |
Wow... go away for a few and check it out... Will start putting the info onto a spread sheet. | ||
| Milezero5 |
Taking legal action against a company that ebr is working would just make things more complicated for everyone and ultimately slow things down. Im curious to see what this spread sheet will look like. | ||
| Eece_ret |
1: 2009 2: 1125CR 3: OEM 4: HD Syn-3 20W-50 5: OEM 6: Yes (@ approx 600mi) 7: OEM 8: OEM 9: Weekdays <3x15> 2 hours 10: 13's Touches mid 12's and mid 14's 11: Weekdays 1, Weekends 2 - 4 12: 180 - 210 13: Weekdays 4-8k Weekends 7-10k 14: Weekdays rarely. Weekends, occasionally 15: 91 16: Denoid+resistor, RR ground strap (Just put this on, as a harmless attempt at a band aid after seeing low 12's and losing VSS on the 4th o'July(ie speedo indicating 0 mph while in 3rd spinning 4k. Once the voltage came back so did VSS) | ||
| Buellerandy |
1) 2009 2) 1125R 3) Stock 4) Stock 5) Erik Buell Racing 6) Yes 7) Stock 8) Stock 9) 70-90 10) 14.4 11) 2 12) 180-190 13) 80, always around 5k or higher 14) rarely 15) 93 16) stock 17)3k? the first Stator, 2-3k the 2nd stator (somewhere at 6k miles) and its looking less than 1k on my 3rd stator, gonna find out here next week when i take it in. | ||
| Swalker |
1)09 2) CR 3) Stock 4) Motul 10-50 full synthetic 5) Erik Buell Racing pump gas/fmf map 6) No 7) Stock 8) fmf 9) 250 miles 10) 12.2-13-4 11) 6-8 12) 180 13) 60, 4k-8k 14) 40 minutes, riding thru small towns 15) Premium, unknown 16) Dnoid 17) 11,500 | ||
| Rpm4x4 |
1) 2009 2) 1125r 3) Air filter stock 4) 90% Amsoil 20/50 10% lucas syn oil stabalizer , kept slightly over the full line 5) Erik Buell Racing ECM since around 5K 6) Harness upgrade Yes early on, dont remember mileage. Under 1000 I think 7) Regulator stock 8) Keda RT1 around 3K miles ago 9) Average length of ride. Commute 35 round trip to work, 200 a week recreation, with 3 couple thousand mile road trips. 10) Average voltage on ride 13.4 11) Number of times starting bike on average ride 2 12) Average Core Temp on ride 166-180 13) Average Speed/RPM on ride 75/4500 14)stuck in traffic- rarely 15) Fuel rating-91 16) Other mods-nope 17) Almost 13K so far no failure (Message edited by rpm4x4 on July 06, 2011) | ||
| Jules |
Unfortunately I can't edit my earlier post but I need to change it as the stator failed on the weekend  1) Year: 2009 2) Model: R 3) Air filter type: K&N 4) Oil type and weight: AMSOIL 20W50 5) ECM: Erik Buell Racing 6) Harness upgrade: Y 7) Regulator: Stock 8) Exhaust system: Barker 9) Average length of ride: 15 mins/7 miles 10) Average voltage on ride: 12.2 11) Number of times starting bike on average ride: 1 12) Average Core Temp on ride: 80C 13) Average Speed/ RPM on ride: ~50mph, ~4500rpm 14) How often are you at parade speeds. (stuck in traffic): ~2 miles/5-10 mins DAILY 15) Fuel rating used: 95 16) Other air/ engine mods/ electrical mods: None 17) Mileage before failure: 4500 18) Battery Tender Use: Religious every night |
