| Author | Message | ||
     Finedaddy1 |
Holy S**T Batman! This is not sounding good. My newly rewound stator should be on the doorstep this afternoon, I hope I do not have any problems. | ||
| Finedaddy1 |
Htekwo - Make sure your wire ends coming from the stator are seated in your connector good. | ||
| Thecowboyblack |
(Htekwo says) "...the mods done by previous owner. He confirmed that the harness mod' was not part of the upgrade, just the 09' harness to match the motor/ECM change." I'm confused by this and would also like to know if the wiring harness is installed for sure. "upgraded REGULATOR from Custom Rewind" ....also makes me believe facts are a little suspect... I mean, is this a misprint? does CustomRewind even sell VR's? If this actually is a "fried" CustomRewind Stator and aftermarket VR, it is important data for those of us on this quest to solve "the stator issue" once and for all. Thanks Htekwo! | ||
| Htekwo |
Thecowboyblack, you are correct in that the VR is not from Custom Rewinds. Being new to this issue, I was quoting from memory what the previous owner said about the mods to the bike (it was late, and I was only half listening). The VR is the upgraded one supplied by Buell (looks like the ones in the pics of the new ones people have installed). I cannot confirm, but I assume you can't just plug an 09' motor to an 08' engine harness. I assume their are differences (I could be wrong). The harness I was speaking of would be whatever harness is for an 09' motor vs 08' which is the model year for the bike. The harness mod was not applied to this bike. Owner stated that it was not necessary as the windings on the Stator were of thinner wire, and therefore less out put, negating the need for the harness mod. I apologize for any confusion, but I would like to get this thing resolved as well. I'm In the process of removing the Stator as we speak, and am returning it to Custom Rewinds overnighted. He has promised me that he will turn it around in one day and have it back out to me the next day (great customer service there!). I'll keep you guys posted. | ||
| Pwillikers |
Htekwo, You need to check the AC voltage between the three wires coming from the stator not from the VR. One meter probe goes to one yellow wire and the other meter probe goes to one of the other yellow wires. Is this what you're checking, correct? Then check all combinations of yellow pairs. Should be around 50V. Here's a step by step guide. The last page covers stator testing. http://www.electrosport.com/media/pdf/fault-finding-diagram.pdf (Message edited by pwillikers on June 13, 2011) | ||
| Thecowboyblack |
thanks alot for the clarification! I know it seems like your the only kid at fat camp with a twinkie right now....we appreciate any info you can pass along. maybe a pic of the stator once removed? thanks again.. | ||
| Tbowdre |
0 volts sounds more like broken stator wires.... no connectors between where you would check AC volts and the actual stator | ||
| Tbowdre |
+100000 Pics | ||
| Froggy |
Htekwo, was the previous owner on here? We can always dig into the past to help figure out details on your bike. | ||
| Bueller4ever |
Just to reiterate what Pwillikers said. Be sure you are unplugging the stator plug under the riders seat. Also be sure your volt meter is set to AC, not DC. You need to place one lead to one yellow wire and the other lead to any other yellow wire, not to ground. I would say that zero volts is very, very unusual. They don't just die completely like that, which leads me to believe you weren't testing it correctly. Even when my stock stator wouldn't charge the battery, it still registered some voltage. | ||
| Dannybuell |
Use all thread for removal and installation of rotor. There has been some mention of using allthread as guides to avoid any potential for shorts, failure. | ||
| Tbowdre |
danny- i think you are talking about using the all thread as a guide to installation of the COVER to decrease the likelihood of damaging the GASKET. the magnet (rotor) is pretty strong and pulls it on pretty quick once it's within an inch or so | ||
| Dannybuell |
THX Tbowdre :-) | ||
| Htekwo |
Is there an easier method to upload pics directly from a file. The only method I know of is to go thru fliker, or photobucket, etc. | ||
| 1_mike |
DO NOT use "all-thread" as a guide...! That's a great way to have aluminum chips end up in your oil...! Just get two long (2") fasteners of the correct diameter, cut the head off and with a thin file (hack saw blade) create a slot in the end where the head was. This will give you a nice smooth "shaft" for the cover to slide on. Put them in about 180 degrees apart, just finger tight. Slide the gasket and cover into place...put a few normal fasteners in place, remove the two "guide pins" with a screw driver. No dirt, no aluminum slivers, no screwed up gaskets....though you still might end up with pinched finger tips...! Mike | ||
| Dannybuell |
THX 1_mike, it just gets better! | ||
| Bueller4ever |
The pics need to be tiny to upload to this site. It's best to use photobucket and link them. | ||
| Htekwo |
OK, here are the pics of the Stator. I used the wrong method to check the voltage prior to disassembly, but after looking at the Stator, it was moot anyway. The thing looks pretty beat up to me (I'm no expert). Take a look.  My Photo by htekwo@yahoo.com, on Flickr  My Photo by htekwo@yahoo.com, on Flickr  My Photo by htekwo@yahoo.com, on Flickr My Photo by htekwo@yahoo.com, on Flickr (Message edited by htekwo on June 13, 2011) | ||
| Methyman |
Is that an old style stator that Custom Rewind did? The new ones have the epoxy on them. Hopefully Custom Rewind will do you right! | ||
| Ezblast |
that looks like a burnt out stock stator w/no epoxy. EZ | ||
| Htekwo |
IDK. Unless the previous owner mis-represented that the Stator was new! Could this have been an early version? I just hope I can get this resolved. | ||
| Pwillikers |
Htekwo, Good for you gettin' right on it. You're well on the road to recovery. Like others, I do believe that it is an HD stator (thin clearish epoxy) and it looks a might crispy. Perhaps a call to the PO to ask for a clarification as to the source of the stator. Probably a simple matter of miscommunication. It'd be good to let Custom Rewind off the hook if that's the case. For comparison sake, I wonder if there are any pics circulating of a properly cured Custom Rewind stator after 5K miles. I don't recall seeing any. Good luck and keep us posted. | ||
| Thecowboyblack |
Htekwo, It's hard to know, but I'm inclined to say that's not a CustomRewind job, (which is what i was hoping for in the grand scheme of things, although I know that doesn't help to get your bike up and going again). Believe me, I feel your pain, mines is back in the shop again, and to be honest, it is ridiculous enough that I've actually lost count how many times I've had it in because of this.......seriously I don't think anyone has gone long enough and documented how the CW stators develop, but that epoxy is pretty heavy and that looks pretty much like my OEM Stators that I've burned through. I'd call the original owner for clarification, or if all else fails, Gary at CW may have a record?? Don't get too put off, there are alot of knowledgeable cats on here that want to solve this. I don't necessarily fall in the knowledgeable category, but I'm the chief of the determined tribe. | ||
| Tbowdre |
count me in with the determined and lacking knowledge. LOL!! I can not imagine that stator looking custom rewind green at any point. Although the epoxy does seem thicker than OEM stators. dunno | ||
| Bueller4ever |
There's a pic in this post of a custom rewind stator with 500 miles on it. http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/290 431/592310.html | ||
| Thecowboyblack |
thanks for the link Bueller4ever. I made a "side by side" for comparison. Click the link below http://www.flickr.com/photos/64052788@N03/58331864 71/lightbox/ . | ||
| Bueller4ever |
It's hard to say if his was done by custom rewind(we don't know how many miles are on it, but I'd put my money on NO, if I were a betting man. Look how clean the mounting surface is on the custom rewind stator. They obviously clean it up good before rewind. | ||
| Htekwo |
I sent the Stator off to Custom today. Should be there sometime tomorrow afternoon. I'll keep you guys posted on the progress and prognosis. | ||
| Dannybuell |
Bueller4ever The cleanliness of the stator sounting surface was my first thought as well. Then I started wondering if that was just the residue of a meltdown. The side by side put up by Thecowboyblack shows how Ultimojustins with 500 miles took the Custom Rewind green away from 3/4 of the stator. IDK. | ||
| Htekwo |
I just txt'd the P/O. He confirmed that it was in fact a C/R Stator. We'll see what the guy at C/R says when he sees it. The P/O states that the wire gauge used for the Rewind was thinner in an attempt to lower the output of the Stator to keep the heat down. Does this sound like a good thing to do? |
