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Needforspeed
| | Posted on Sunday, May 08, 2011 - 03:36 pm: | 
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I have never ridden a tire to the cords until my last trip home (350 miles). The stock 1125r tires do not have a wear line and at just over 4k on the rear I thought I had a bit more. I will trailer this bike to the shop to get new tires.
First: cords do not have the same traction and put you at risk.
Second: thinner material means easer to cut, poke, and distort. All of which is not safe.
Lastly: even when I was an E4 in the military with a wife and kids, I always kept good tires on my bike. It is my contact point and my safety. Be safe, ride hard, and keep the rubber side down. |
Zac4mac
| | Posted on Sunday, May 08, 2011 - 09:15 pm: |
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A couple of years ago I was at wire showing 270 degrees and got the OK to do a burn-out to pop in the parking lot.
1st then 2nd, smoking for 2-3 minutes until it popped.
Huge cloud of smoke, the Harley guys loved it. so did I.
After I cut a bird-nest of steel wire out of the swingarm, I rolled Loretta inside and put a new tire on.
That rubber's tough and I live in a dry climate so slicks aren't as scary as if I lived in Seattle or London.
Tires are weird tho - I got 19994 miles out of my first front, 5k out of the next one, both C-IIIs. YMMV
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Mountainstorm
| | Posted on Monday, May 09, 2011 - 07:25 am: |
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20K miles off a front tire is amazing. |
Mtch
| | Posted on Monday, May 09, 2011 - 08:27 am: |
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i will never run a tire to the cords, its just stupid to do such a thing and risk injuring myself, or if i crash, then someone else. if had an accident, even if it was no fault of my own, then my insurance would not pay up.
where i live we often have a lot of rain, so a worn tire is lethal. i usually change a tire when its down to the marker, or if winter is coming so a new tyre is safer then.
i can understand if someone is using their bike for track days and the tire is worn out then, but on the road its asking for trouble in my opinion. |
Jules
| | Posted on Monday, May 09, 2011 - 08:43 am: |
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Tires are weird tho - I got 19994 miles out of my first front, 5k out of the next one, both C-IIIs
20k from a front is fantastic, I wonder why the second one wore out so quickly (comparitively). I'm getting ~2500 miles to a rear and ~6000 mikes to a front, which TBH is enought o keep me happy.
My old TL managed ~2500 to a front and ~1400 to a rear, but that was about 4 years ago and I know tyre technology is evolving all the time.
Fortunately having more than one bike means I only have to change the rear twice a year and the front annually so that's OK.
My ZZR1100 is managing around 10K tot he front and ~6k to the rear, which is keeping my (tyre) costs down LOL |
Echo15
| | Posted on Monday, May 09, 2011 - 09:20 am: |
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Having once gone down at 55mph, I make damn sure that everything that is in my control is right. Tires are the most important thing on the bike safety/control-wise.
I do not understand those who wouldn't think of running with their oil level down just a millimeter, tweak their ecms constantly, and obsess over every mechanical issue, but have no problem riding on cords. |
Sprintst
| | Posted on Monday, May 09, 2011 - 09:56 am: |
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well I didn't ride on cords on purpose, but my shipment didn't arrive in time.
I wasn't riding hard, and the only real problem I found was how easy it was to spin the tire on take off. I knew I was way low on tread and wasn't pushing corners or riding wet pavement.
Not as dangerous as some think, but you probably really need to know what you are doing, and I wouldn't even try it on a front |
Mountainstorm
| | Posted on Monday, May 09, 2011 - 10:51 am: |
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Slung a Michelin Road 3 on this morning. That's a sexy looking tire. I think I'll just cuddle with it for a while before I put it on the bike.
Wonder if the new rear is going to unsettle the very worn front 2CT now. I have to make do for about a month.
EDIT Took a short ride and I like that Road 3. Same grip level as the 2CT far as I can tell. But better grip on my long gravel drive. Even a new 2CT spins up as I climb, but this one just tractored away up the slope without a spinning out once.
(Message edited by mountainstorm on May 09, 2011) |
Finedaddy1
| | Posted on Monday, May 09, 2011 - 05:59 pm: |
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This was my first tire, I thought I would have enough tread going on a trip out of state, but as you can see "I didn't".
I will never make this mistake again, I like to have never removed the seat from my ass when the ride was over, due to my sphincter gripping it so hard.
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Catalan42
| | Posted on Monday, May 09, 2011 - 07:49 pm: |
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Wow - had something similar happen 1st trip home from Vegas to San Diego (only 1/4 as bad). I noticed it at a gas stop and rode home the last 150 miles VERY slowly and gently in the slow lane...... |
Needforspeed
| | Posted on Monday, May 09, 2011 - 09:34 pm: |
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FineDaddy1
From what I can see of the tire photo it looks like the spot is cause by a breaking slide. Agree that it would be scary to ride on that tire. |
Dannybuell
| | Posted on Monday, May 09, 2011 - 10:03 pm: |
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Finedaddy1 - my s1 seat has a permanent crease from front to back right down the middle! |
Cataract2
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2011 - 03:26 am: |
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There was a couple that I used to ride with that took a trip to the Deal's Gap area one summer. Her tire was worn down quite a bit, but they felt they would be ok till the end of the day. Well, after some serious riding I guess the cord started to show. They saw it at a stop, but decided to push it a bit more. Well, on a left hand turn the rear grip went due to cord showing (metal doesn't grip) and she lost it going into a barbed wire fence. Gear saved here, but she ended up needing to be flown to the hospital. She and her husband still ride, but the one thing they both said was never again would they let a tire get the cord. I am the same way, once I get close to the wear bars I'm ordering a new set ready to go. |
Not_purple_s2
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2011 - 08:45 am: |
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This thread reminds me, I need a new rear.
If I go ahead and order my tire it should be here about the time the cords start to show.
I'll ride to the cords but only till they just peak through. I've had to ride over 100 miles home on a tire showing cords once and didn't like it. I too had the ass-pucker the whole way home.
By the looks of my tire now it's probably got a few hundred miles left. At ~70 miles per day that won't take long.
I'll keep riding it but once the cords show it's staying home and I'll switch to the truck or CR.
I think with this new longer commute (and having the CR for track and play) I will switch to some harder longer-wearing tires. I'll probably wait until the front and rear both need replacing. The front should last through one more rear. |
Mountainstorm
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2011 - 09:47 am: |
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Now I am wanting a new front. The rear is hooking up great,but the front is scalloped and I can really feel it now. The Road 3 is making me happy. It's so sticky I am having a hard time believing it will last longer than the Power 2CT. I maintain air pressures religiously but I still get uneven wear in the front. I think it's my riding style. |
Blake
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2011 - 05:02 pm: |
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Change tires before the wear indicator hits pavement or soon after. Once though I had chords showing on the rear tire and had to ride home from Houston, about 150 miles. Not fun. |
Zac4mac
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 11, 2011 - 01:09 am: |
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Took a short ride today on Loretta. shit, cord starting to break thru.
Now I gotta see when I put this tire on, seems like last week...
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Skntpig
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 11, 2011 - 03:28 pm: |
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Til she pops...
My buddy on the R and my CR at the Ironhorse. Both needed some shoes so why not make it a show. |
Zac4mac
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 17, 2011 - 01:39 am: |
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My last tire - new one Saturday, May 14th at 26.6k miles.
It was put on at 18k miles. yeah 8500 miles...
Smoke to pop. 
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Mountainstorm
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 17, 2011 - 06:24 am: |
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Does it feel good? I've never done that. |
Forerunner
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 17, 2011 - 07:56 am: |
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In both those burned out tire pictures the carcass looks pretty thick to me where it tore... :P
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Xodot
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 17, 2011 - 11:48 am: |
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Just another opinion on the subject:
Tire incineration under any circumstance creates pollution that makes the air dangerous to breathe.
It is common knowledge that burning tires in the open is extremely harmful to human health and the natural environment. The fumes emitted are packed with the many toxic chemicals that tires contain (including volatile organic compounds such as benzene, metals such as lead, polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons such as benzo(a)pyrene, and synthetic rubber components such as butadiene and styrene). Additionally, the chlorine content in tires leads to the creation of dioxins and furans (which are extremely toxic chemicals) when tires are burned.
live long and prosper |
Zac4mac
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 17, 2011 - 03:06 pm: |
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That was only the second time I've popped a tire like that.
The sound of the Helicon motor exhausting thru the Drummer at 11k rpm was as exciting as the giant cloud.
When the tire pops and the bike drops 2 inches, there's a feeling of ... I dunno, but it felt good.
As for the "toxic gasses" I also fart outdoors. big deal.
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