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Dammitquikgentry
Posted on Monday, March 28, 2011 - 05:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My 09 1125R broke down on me. I can only describe what happened as the engine suddenly started running very rough and surging. At idle the tach would bounce from normal rpms to over 4k. It was throwin fuel system and pressure codes. I killed it asap and the fuel pump wouldn't shut off! Very very strong odor of gas and I could hear the pump. Unhooked the battery. As a matter of fact something similar to this happened when I first got the bike. Unhooking the battery resets the codes which is why I was reluctant to do so this time. Dealership said nothin was wrong the last time as it ran fine after the battery was hooked back and was showing no codes. I went to Homecoming and back no probs afterwards so I thought it was just a glitch. This time the local dealer says its just a IC no biggie...but the IC is also on backorder until April 29th according to them. Its an 09 w 5500 miles, harness update and voltage regulator changed under warranty. Any advice or info on this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
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Rogue_biker
Posted on Monday, March 28, 2011 - 11:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What is an "IC"?

If you turn on the ignition, does the fuel pump cycle up then shut off? Or does it run constantly?

If the fuel pump runs constantly, you have a short on your fuel pump wiring somewhere.

Although that alone should not make the engine run rough and rev up.
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Tbowdre
Posted on Monday, March 28, 2011 - 12:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

disconnecting battery does not reset codes.
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Dammitquikgentry
Posted on Monday, March 28, 2011 - 12:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

IC means Instrument cluster/gauges. And i dont believe thats the prob but i dont know what to say as theyre saying thats the prob. And Tbow, it reset the codes both times i unhooked the battery. i love the bike but i wanna ride it. it runs great for awhile then stuff like this.
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Jules
Posted on Monday, March 28, 2011 - 12:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If the fuel pump runs constantly, you have a short on your fuel pump wiring somewhere.

Not neccessarily, it could be a faulty fuel pressure sensor, a faulty relay, a faulty pump (although I guess you could call that a short in the wiring at a push).
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Kinder
Posted on Monday, March 28, 2011 - 12:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

In most cases to 'reset' codes you have to not only disconnect the batt but either leave it disconnected long enough for the system to discharge any residual power or pull the brake to discharge it.
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Sharkytattoo
Posted on Monday, March 28, 2011 - 12:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As I remember, you told me your fuel pump started running non-stop after you ran the bike off a cloverleaf and dumped it in the grass. Then you never brought it in to the dealership for us to look at and told me it started running fine again. I told you that we have to check the IC first before we can verify that the fuel pump is functioning correctly. We have another IC on its way after finding one through our dealer parts locator. You also told me you weren't upset because you're going to sell the bike anyway. And the harness upgrade was already installed when you bought the bike. I was honest with you, so what gives?
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Dammitquikgentry
Posted on Monday, March 28, 2011 - 01:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sharky it died goin around the clover leaf and i did lay it down in the grass, they told me on the phone if it wasnt showin codes and ran fine then there wasnt a prob. i did tell you i was contemplating sellin the bike. I said nothing negative towards the dealer. i was not notified of an IC coming sooner. Im just looking for info on obtaining one sooner or anyone that has had the same probs. If you have a prob w me researching this you know my number.
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Rogue_biker
Posted on Monday, March 28, 2011 - 07:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Didn't sound like he was upset, just looking for information from other owner's experience.

Sounds fair to me.
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1125rcya
Posted on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 - 02:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I like hearing all the problems and how they arise on the 1125. This all leads to what was the cause and fix.
This site is a knowledge volt!
I have like 336 copies of Easyrider which is my knowledge vault for the old shovel head
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Fireboltxb9r
Posted on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 - 10:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So it's safe to assume the 336 copies of Easyrider you bought, filled with naked biker chicks, were purchased for the articles?
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Budgolf
Posted on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 - 11:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

From most of the chicks I've seen in Easyrider, I wouldn't buy it for the chicks.
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Rt_performance
Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2011 - 01:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am an auto tech.Been in the business a long time 20 years ish.
Sounds like the fuel pump relay.
The contac points arc when they connect.
Some times they partial weld togther.
Disconectiong the battery removes all the voltage and allows the relay to cool and then they seprate.
Likely a standerd relay you can get at Napa or any other auto parts store.
PS:sounds like your dealer is Buell Friendly wich is a good thing : )
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Avalaugh
Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2011 - 03:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Good call RT, could it be possible the charging system upgrade has burnt this out, I saw first hand the other day what the upgrade harness had done to the yellow charging cables, they were burnt and the guys who's bike it was (colintornado) had removed the upgrade to stop it getting any worse.
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Dammitquikgentry
Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2011 - 06:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The dealer IS Buell friendly. The tech Sharkytattoo is a friend of mine as well. I didn't mean anything negative towards him or the dealer. I am frustrated but I have faith they'll get it back as soon as they are able to. I know its busy this time of year and these things are kind of quirky. I was just tryin to see if anyone had the same issues or could help locate parts, I wasn't trying to trash talk anyone or ruffle feathers. After speaking w them, it seems everything is looking good about the repair and I hope no relationships have been damaged. Thanks for all your input guys
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D_adams
Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2011 - 07:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My guess on this one is either fuel pump, the relay or possibly the ecm. Not sure why changing out the IC would fix it, its just a display unit without any real control functions as to how the bike runs, at least as far as I know anyway.
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Rkc00
Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2011 - 10:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My yellow charging cables on my 09 1125R were also burnt to a dark brown. The relay was so hot it almost melted. All three legs of the Stator were shot. Harness is getting replaced. Will check the VR once the stator and harness is fixed.
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Sharkytattoo
Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2011 - 01:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Repair manual flowchart for the DTC recommended installing a new IC and then checking to see if the same DTC set. If not, problem fixed, if so, replace fuel pump. A different DTC set when the new IC was installed. New fuel pump is ordered and should arrive tomorrow. Wiring and relays test ok. Visual inspection of old fuel pump revealed nothing unusual.
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Jules
Posted on Thursday, March 31, 2011 - 05:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Repair manual flowchart for the DTC recommended installing a new IC and then checking to see if the same DTC set

My dealer is ordering a new fuel pump for an issue that I think is more likely to be the IC, he's basing his choice of part on the flowchart, I'm basing mine on lots of research.

We have a bit of a side wager on as to who is correct. I don't mind being wrong (if I am) as it'll mean the bike's fixed more quickly.

Having a good relationship with the tech is a key success factor in ownership
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Avalaugh
Posted on Thursday, March 31, 2011 - 05:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not to sure if you yanks will get this ???

"Computer say's No...."
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Kinder
Posted on Thursday, March 31, 2011 - 07:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

^ old comedy series right? Little Britain or Small Britain or something?

Mind you I am Canadian.; )
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