| Author | Message | ||
     1125rcya |
Yes, I know this subject has been pounded. It hasn't been a problem to me thus far, is it really worth the time to De-noid my stock R? I would love ride a track day, but the reality is that I can't afford a track day nor the proper equipment at this point in my life! De-Noid Pro's? Con's/issues? | ||
| Froggy |
Pros - I found none. Some people report easier throttle movement, I notice no change (I got one bike with, one without it, no difference). Cons - Takes more than 5 minutes get to and remove. If you already have the airbox off for something, might as well do it, otherwise I wouldn't bother. If you throw on a Erik Buell Racing race ecm, it won't activate it anyway, so there is even less incentive to remove it. My CR has it removed, my R still has it, I notice no difference regarding power or drivability. I've never had it activate on me either. So personally, I would leave it for the moment. | ||
| 09_1125r |
I second Froggy. I ride the shit out of my bike and have never had the symptoms of the solenoid activating. It looks like a waste of time and effort, although others swear by it. Whatever! I guess you really need to ride like an idiot for it to actually kick in. If you're smooth on the throttle, like you should be, you'll never experience the "noid". I ride hard, but always smooth. | ||
| Jules |
Whatever! I guess you really need to ride like an idiot for it to actually kick in. If you're smooth on the throttle, like you should be, you'll never experience the "noid". That's harsh and inaccurate, but you're entitled to your opinion. The Erik Buell Racing ECM doesn't activate the Noid so if you're planning on doing that at any stage then it's probably not wrth the hassle. My Noid cable wasn't installed from new so I don't know if it does make the throttle feel "lighter" as some report. I took it off as it has the potential to create a problem under a certain set of circumstances, I figured, why not? | ||
| Xb1200rick |
The first and only time my noid kicked in I was just merging on to the interstate . I hit whatever combination of events that cause it to kick in just as I pulled into traffic .The bike fell on its face and I almost got ran over. I took it off that day , not worth having in there to worry about. Rick | ||
| Buellmojo |
My vote goes to removal, Xb1200rick's experience was very similar to mine. | ||
| Nillaice |
you don't HAVE to remove it entirely, just unplug it indefinetly or until you get the resistor plug, or E BR ECM. removing the seat and disconnecting it is definetly easy and worth it. | ||
| Gemini |
it's a noise compliant device used to reduce throttle in third gear. at what rpm vs tps i don't know for sure but it is designed to only activate in third gear. as for claims of more power, smoother thottle feel, it's in their head. also no need to zip tie throttle linkage together if the solenoid is removed. as weither to remove it or not. that's completely up to you. i removed mine at a very low milage. never gave it enough milage to have a chance of experiencing it. i removed it because with the traffic i experience in charleston on and off the interestate, it would be bad IF i had the throttle cut back on me. race ecm, remove cable, remove solenoid/install purchased resistor, make resistor, change eeprom by hand. there are too many ways to think of how to do it and depending on your knowledge and resorces will determine how easy/expensive it is to do. | ||
| Mountainstorm |
I disagree with Froggy that there is no difference in throttle feel. It's a significant difference in spring tension. Removing or at the least uncabling the solenoid from the butterflies will result in a lighter feel when twisting the throttle. Other than the weight savings (again a significant amount and reduced weight=increased HP to weight ratio) and a lighter throttle feel I can't think of any reason to remove it. I've never had the bike stall while merging or whatever. | ||
| Nillaice |
pro's - not getting runover while trying to merge in 3rd gear, weight savings (negligibly noticeable) con's - it takes maybe 3 minutes to unplug, you may now emmitt more than the EPA noise limit allows (or whatever that soleniod was intended to do) | ||
| Drhodes1970 |
If you're going to de-activate it why not remove it for the weight savings alone.It'll just be sitting in there doing nothing . | ||
| Jdugger |
The 'noid itself has a pretty decent amount of spring tension in its return you are pulling against when you use the throttle. If you want a lighter spring tension on the throttle, it's an easy change to help achieve that goal. | ||
| Mtnbueller |
Am I the only one who never merges in third gear? My merge was 20 mph ago when I get into third.....just a thought | ||
| Jdugger |
> Am I the only one who never merges in third gear? No. It's an old discussion. Back when the 'noid was a major point of contention, endless debates raged on about the safety aspects of the 'noid. Someone said something to the effect of "so, let me get this straight, you are in 3rd gear below 4500 RPM and you whack it to WOT, but you don't down shift?" I thought they were going to be shouted off the board for providing this reasonable advice. | ||
| Zac4mac |
I can understand this if you're talking about an IL-4. The 1125 is a twin with birthrights in the realm of tractors. If it can't pull itself out of a hole it's not worthy. In the mountains, I can stay in 3rd or 4th all day if there's no tourists. In 3 years, I hit he 'noid once, saw a CEL after I disabled it once. Still glad it's gone. Z | ||
| Dannybuell |
I think it would give you peace of mind knowing it would never happen. who wants a nagging thought that the bike is going to crap out on you, maybe when you need it most? For those times when you are using the stock ECM the noid plug is there for you. | ||
| Kirb |
My bike is still in warranty. I've had less than stellar experiance with HD warranty claims, so I don't want to screw with the bike too much. I put the resistor plug in place of the 'noid and take it out when the bike goes to the dealer. I would suggest this mod to anyone. I don't think I would suggest a full removal of the 'noid unless you were super critical on saving weight. | ||
| Milleniumx1 |
Just put the resistor plug in ($6-8 isn't that much money really) and be done with it. I left my H/W there, and it eventually became a moot point when I installed the E B R box. I have encountered the noid functionality, and to say it's unnerving would be a huge understatement. | ||
| Nukeblue |
did i hear somewhere that if you have the latest ecm flash that it deactivated it anyway? and you don't need the resistor if you remove it? mine has had it connected and plugged in since new with 3,500 miles on it now and i have never felt it activate. the dealer installed the stator harness & updated the ecm before delivery. | ||
| Gemini |
from looking at the eeprom in the past on the latest flash, it is still an active function. if you leave the electrical connector unplugged without changing the eeprom or ecm, you will have a check engine light stay on. | ||
| Dirty_john |
I helped my local dealer run in their 1125R 2008 demo bike and the throttle action was awful, when I got my 2009 1125R the first thing I did was to denoid it, I didn't want to have to worry about the noid activating when overtaking in third gear. Its no big deal having to tie the throttle quadrants together | ||
| Mackja |
First time I took my 1125r to the track, every time I went through turn five at Barber I would loose throttle, engine would not respond at all, got rid of that noid and no more stall. | ||
| Jdugger |
What are you doing in 3rd gear in turn 5?  That's a 2nd gear corner! You are talking about the hairpin left just after the downhill braking zone, right? | ||
| Mackja |
2nd gear, how slow are you going. lol lol just kidding, it had rained that day so I go up a gear on wet pavement. | ||
| 1_mike |
Despite the naysayers and experts (all due respect!)...I had it hit me twice (fairly early on) while getting on the freeway. Lets see...the word dangerous comes to mind. If you have a car just a little too close...he'll be picking you out of his grill for the next coupla days. I didn't know what happened the first time..thought I had a fuel problem or something. Then I read about the thing and what it did.. I ordered the resistor plug and the next time it happened, the whole thing came off that night. I didn't notice much difference in the throttle pull effort, but it doesn't want to throw me over the handlebar anymore either !!! Mike (Message edited by 1_mike on January 18, 2011) | ||
| Thefleshrocket |
The noid was causing my throttle cable to not move smoothly when the bike was warmed up. It was repeatable when checking TPS--it wouldn't go all the way to 100% when the bike was warm. Removing the noid fixed the throttle cable binding and the TPS reading issues. Of course, if you aren't having any issues with it and you don't feel motivated to remove it, then there's no need. | ||
| Jdugger |
> 2nd gear, how slow are you going. lol lol > just kidding, it had rained that day so I go up a gear on wet pavement. Too slow, apparently! I had the chance to ride Barber in the rain last year and actually really enjoyed it. It's way better in the wet than any track I've been on. | ||
| Eece_ret |
I say yank it. Mine is removed with the resistor in place. Last track day I had the AIS engine code throw after each session. Having the throttle yanked back while exiting a corner would have been horrible, if not extremely dangerous. | ||
| Lovedabueller |
really we are still talking bout this!?!?!?!?! | ||
| Moorev2 |
Ok...quick question...I bought a used 1125r and recently found that the MAP sensor was bypassed...meaning there were no lines going to it from the throttle body..it was just hanging there. Is that part of the process for de noiding? Why would you bypass the MAP sensor? |
