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Dannybuell
Posted on Thursday, June 17, 2010 - 01:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dbolemiss - Al is wanting to help us here.
Rt_performance - Nice.

(Message edited by dannybuell on June 17, 2010)
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S1125r
Posted on Thursday, June 17, 2010 - 01:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Holy crap... I should sell my original touring seat and get one of the new ones when this whole order is done.
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Al_lighton
Posted on Thursday, June 17, 2010 - 09:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You will be ordering them from American Sport Bike. Some progress this week, should be able to have pricing in the next few days, I think.

Al
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Timtowtdi
Posted on Thursday, June 17, 2010 - 06:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Ibppjr
Posted on Saturday, June 19, 2010 - 05:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for the summary! I'm def interested and will keep looking for an update.

I like the idea of the channel...and COMFORT.
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Chopped_burban
Posted on Wednesday, June 23, 2010 - 01:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sweet, I have to order some other stuff from Al this week or next anyway
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Dannybuell
Posted on Wednesday, June 23, 2010 - 11:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Al_lighton
Posted on Thursday, June 17, 2010 - 09:58 am:

"to have pricing in the next few days, I think."

The cost figures will determine the success of this, if the cost is too high we may not make the minimum of 25.

As summer unfolds peoples budgets will change with family pressures and unplanned expenses. The longer it takes Al to put this together the greater the attrition rate. If we lose too many we may not make the minimum of 25.

hurry up and wait.
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Timtowtdi
Posted on Friday, June 25, 2010 - 01:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

and wait . . .
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Reducati
Posted on Sunday, June 27, 2010 - 08:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

and............wait
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Hunter19
Posted on Monday, June 28, 2010 - 12:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

First time I've posted on this thread. Just did a 400 mile weekend and I need a better seat. I'm in for a Saddleman track gel.

Thanks,
Scott
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Dannybuell
Posted on Monday, June 28, 2010 - 12:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hunter19 - THX
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Ponti1
Posted on Monday, June 28, 2010 - 07:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Would anyone be willing to summarize where we stand on this? I had thrown my name in way back toward the beginning, but honestly can't keep up with the hundreds of posts in here.

If you guys are proceeding, who will do the seats, for how much? What will they look like, and of what will they be constructed? Are there options, or is only one seat type being built?
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Dannybuell
Posted on Monday, June 28, 2010 - 11:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

-----Summary-----

The group has collectively decided that Saddlemen.com with their gel seat is the best. I have 45 people that have voted the Saddlemen gel seat and 1 Corbin.

Saddlemen wants 25 or more orders to develop the seat.

Al at American Sport Bike stated that he wants to do the deal on May 10th.

We have been respectfully waiting for Al at American Sport Bike since then.

Early on Dean offered to facilitate, this may yet happen.

---VOTE------VOTE------VOTE---
Do we wait for Al or move on?


THX
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Jeepinbueller
Posted on Monday, June 28, 2010 - 11:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I vote to just be patient and wait for Al to wrap up the exhaust shootout and then handle the seats when he can. Being a forum supporter, and a proven vendor with ties already made to Saddlemen, I think patience is a virute that will pay off for us in this venture.
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Hogzilla
Posted on Monday, June 28, 2010 - 11:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

^ +1

I don't see any better options on the table.
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Koji52
Posted on Monday, June 28, 2010 - 11:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i agree...wait for Al
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Reducati
Posted on Monday, June 28, 2010 - 11:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

jeepinbueller said it best.
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D_adams
Posted on Monday, June 28, 2010 - 11:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'd say that Al's probably got the best deal going, even without seeing the price yet. If for some reason it falls through for American Sport Bike, then I'd step up if needed.
If you're looking for votes to either wait or move on, I vote wait.
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Jornum1
Posted on Monday, June 28, 2010 - 01:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I vote to wait
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Timtowtdi
Posted on Monday, June 28, 2010 - 01:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And Wait . . .
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Reddoggk
Posted on Monday, June 28, 2010 - 03:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

For what it's worth, I'm very happy with the custom saddle I got from:
http://www.motorbikesaddles.com/Buell%201125R%20&%201125CR%20Seats.htm

Loren is a great guy doing outstanding work. I even skipped the gel-insert option, and this saddle is 50x more comfortable on long rides vs the stock.
-greg

Baldwin saddle 1125R
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Jredx1
Posted on Monday, June 28, 2010 - 04:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

wait
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Puredrive
Posted on Monday, June 28, 2010 - 04:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Waited this long..What's a few more days.
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Velocity
Posted on Monday, June 28, 2010 - 10:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bump
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Father_of_an_era
Posted on Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - 12:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Might as well wait a bit more. This does suck though!!!!! I want a seat now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Al_lighton
Posted on Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - 10:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Where we're at....
Things were looking good to get access to the seat pan, which is molded in Taiwan. We have permission from HD to use it, and it was a go, until it was decided that the quantities weren't high enough for them to mold them. I've since inquired as to what quantity I need to buy to make it feasible, and the US contact is checking with the powers that be to get that answer. That was about 1.5 weeks ago, haven't heard anything since. I'll ping my contact again today.

It's been difficult. The first contact was on international travel, got sick, and was unreachable. Then the other contact was involved in an auto accident, and was hospitalized. Then the quantity issue. I'm doing all I can, it isn't for lack of trying on my part.

Al
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Dannybuell
Posted on Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - 10:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Outsourcing! Are you working with an electronic file of the seat pan molding?

Just shopping for prototype shops. I found 18 in Southern California for injection molding prototypes.

http://www.thomasnet.com/southern-california/proto types-injection-molded-63752950-1.html

quickparts minimum starts at 25 units.

http://www.quickparts.com/ToolingProduction/RapidI njection.aspx?s_kwcid=08bdggl004o&gclid=CPG-tIPCxa ICFQ9OagodChmB3A


THX
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Chopped_burban
Posted on Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - 10:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No problem Al, that's how it goes sometimes. Thanks for your efforts and keeping us informed.
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Hogzilla
Posted on Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - 10:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Egads! It sounds like this seat may have a curse attached to it.

Thanks for the work on this guys!
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Al_lighton
Posted on Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - 06:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Checkmate...maybe.

The US contact for the company that built the seats for HD was given a verbal permission to use the seat pan for this project, as long as they did NOT say HD or Buell anywhere on them. We proceeded based on that understanding. However, upper management at that company has put the kabosh on using the seat pans without a letter from HD stating the same, and that letter is NOT forthcoming from the verbal source.

What that means is that I don't have a source for seat pans that I thought I did.

I have some other digging to do now. It's not that it can't be done, it's that it might not be able to be done at the right price target in the quantities I'm looking at. It sure seems like I'm swimming upstream on just about everything these days......

Al
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