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Mcballpeen
Posted on Saturday, June 05, 2010 - 07:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The other day I was riding my 1125R down the turnpike (I-76) and the back end started making a strange noise and started to handle weird. I pull over in the first breakdown area and look at the back end. The first thing I noticed is the bearing seal is over by the swingarm. The next thing I noticed is some of the bearing were poking out of the slot. I'm not a mechanic, but I knew this wasn't good thing.

I called the dealer (about 55 miles away) and they came and picked up the bike. It turns out I need a whole new rear everything. The nice part is that this happened about a month before my 12 month warranty was up. The bad news is now I'm without a bike. Does any one know how long this "upgrade" will take? What all is involved with the upgrade? I got that they will be replacing the wheel, bearings and axle, but what else? Thanks for your time!

Oh, BTW I have about 3700 miles on it. I hope not to have to do this every 3700 miles.

(Message edited by mcballpeen on June 05, 2010)
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Hughlysses
Posted on Saturday, June 05, 2010 - 07:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mcballpeen- depending on how much damage was done, they might have to replace the swingarm and rear brake caliper too.

The good news is that you may get an improved 2010 rear wheel assembly which has 3 (instead of 2) larger bearings with separate external seals that help keep moisture out of the bearings. It also has a black hard-anodized rear axle that isn't susceptible to corrosion from moisture like the original bare aluminum axles. This setup appears to be a big improvement over the 2008/9 wheel, which is the same as the original XB wheels back to 2003.

At least a couple of Badwebbers with Uly's have gotten the upgrade to the 2010 wheel at no charge when their Uly's had similar failures so hopefully you will too.
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Sportster_mann
Posted on Saturday, June 05, 2010 - 08:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Don't rely on the 2010 rear axle not seizing - mine had to go back to the dealer after 3 months as I had a puncture and couldn't get the rear wheel out - the axle was stuck solid - the dealer said that it was a real pain to get out - was all sorted under warranty though.
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Mcballpeen
Posted on Saturday, June 05, 2010 - 08:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thank you Hughlysses! They ran down a list of replacement stuff, but I was having a hard time hearing it. I was stuck out on a major highway in 85+ degree weather in a tracksuit. While the one piece tracksuit isn't uncomfortable when riding, it IS uncomfortable when sitting by the road in the hot sun. I must have lost some serious body weight when I got to the dealer because I damn near drank the water cooler dry.

Sportster, I'll make sure the axle is greased properly before it leaves the dealer. In this case, a little more grease isn't going to hurt.

(Message edited by mcballpeen on June 05, 2010)

(Message edited by mcballpeen on June 05, 2010)
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Jackgraves
Posted on Saturday, June 05, 2010 - 08:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Man these bikes sure are not Honda quality, My 2008 1125r is mint with 2500 miles I think ill sell this thing soon and get me a more dependable CBR1000RR.
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Rocketsprink
Posted on Saturday, June 05, 2010 - 09:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

you do that
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Jackgraves
Posted on Saturday, June 05, 2010 - 09:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rocketsprink dont take that so personal, not trying to put these bikes down I'm not convinced they have the quality of Honda and Yamaha, bearings bad, leaking clutch pistons, blowing motors at 6000 miles, charging issues, faulty gauge clusters, blown head gaskets. But hey we bought these bikes for their uniqueness and character and that I understand. I am not trying to offend anyone.
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Froggy
Posted on Saturday, June 05, 2010 - 09:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

Man these bikes sure are not Honda quality,




Thank god they aren't, last thing I need is a spontaneously combusting bike like a Honda Fit.

(Message edited by froggy on June 05, 2010)
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Jackgraves
Posted on Saturday, June 05, 2010 - 09:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

hello froggy
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Lastonetherebuys
Posted on Saturday, June 05, 2010 - 12:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You go spend 25-35% more than you should on the bike just for the wing emblem and the honda name.
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Jackgraves
Posted on Saturday, June 05, 2010 - 05:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I guess people cant have opinions in this forum.
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Froggy
Posted on Saturday, June 05, 2010 - 06:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You can have your opinion, but when your opinion is based on BS facts, you will get called out on it.

One guy had a major issue with his motor at 6k miles so the entire 10,000 bike production line is bad?

Last time I checked, Honda had to give significant rebates to get CBR1000's off the showroom floor due to major engine issues.
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Xbud
Posted on Saturday, June 05, 2010 - 08:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There are no manufacturers without their flaws, the Ducati 1098 release had major cam problems, the K1200S and K1200R had transmission problems for the first three years. KTM 990's had water pump seal problems, clutch slave problems, brake problems. Honda had electrical problems on the VFR's and others, no matter what brand they are going to have problems. Buy what you like and ride it like you stole it.

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults /mcn/2007/May/may15-20/may1407ducati1098recall/


http://www.bmwk1200s.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=452 8

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Dannybuell
Posted on Saturday, June 05, 2010 - 08:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You wave a red flag at a bull and your next comment is "What you don't like the color?"

I would not presume going to a political party meeting opposite my persuasion, voice my opinion and expect a warm welcome?

I would not presume to go a gay rights meeting (opposite my persuasion), voice my opinion and expect a warm welcome?

Certain things are kind of easy to figure out. What is the real problem?
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Dktechguy112
Posted on Saturday, June 05, 2010 - 10:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Rocketsprink dont take that so personal, not trying to put these bikes down I'm not convinced they have the quality of Honda and Yamaha, bearings bad, leaking clutch pistons, blowing motors at 6000 miles, charging issues, faulty gauge clusters, blown head gaskets. But hey we bought these bikes for their uniqueness and character and that I understand. I am not trying to offend anyone."

I get what you are saying, but I have been on alot of forums, and I have worked on a lot of different, bikes, quads.. etc. And i must say that this buell is most brilliantly engineered motorcycle that i have had the privilege to work on.
And the head gasket, engine blowing, and clusters are isolated incidents. I have seen a hand full of people with bad engines or head gaskets blown. That is expected when close to 10k bikes are produced.

I will admit that the clutch leak is frustrating, but that is more rotax's fault then buell. And rotax supplies engines to brp, aprillia and ktm, who are all known for great quality.

You have to remember that most people only post on forums when they have problems. 95% of the owners are out riding instead of posting on forums. If you want to sell your buell to get a honda cbr that is your choice. But remember even honda has problems. I was just talking to a guy that had a 08 cbr 1000 with only 2k miles on it, and the engine blew up. It threw a rod out of the bottom of the sump when he was going 100 mph, and caused him to high side.
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Dktechguy112
Posted on Saturday, June 05, 2010 - 10:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

mcballpeen,
You said 12 month warranty?
I thought the 1125 has a 24 month warranty?
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Rpm4x4
Posted on Saturday, June 05, 2010 - 11:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My Buell has 5500 miles and has been problem free. For what its worth my XB9 has only needed a clutch cable in 26K.

For what its worth. My buddies Gsxr has had far more issues than I have in less than half as many miles. Timing chain tensioners, front shock seals, rear brake hanging, ect. Buells crash far cheaper than a Honda as well. Another friend of mine layed down his fireblade and well over 1400 in damage. Plastics are intergrated and shatter easy. Ive layed my 1125 down twice and $138 and it is as good as new.
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Mcballpeen
Posted on Sunday, June 06, 2010 - 08:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"mcballpeen,
You said 12 month warranty?
I thought the 1125 has a 24 month warranty?"

Well, maybe it does, but I bought it used. It was a dealer demo with 800 miles on it. Other than the rear bearings it's been stone reliable. I really can't complain, but I am out a bike right now (thank God the weather sucks). The dealer has an 1125CR for $7995. I paid about $1000 more for mine. At the time it seemed like a good deal.
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01lightning
Posted on Sunday, June 06, 2010 - 09:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yea thats a good point-usually only the problems get mentioned on forums, not the chocolaty goodness.
Lemmee sweeten the pot a lil...

I have a 09 CR with over 5k on it and the bike has been about as perfect as I could expect a bike to be. Sure I had the charging system tsb done(no symptoms or issues-just did it because of the letter)but that was Buell being proactive IMO. I've had more fun on 2 wheels since I got this bike than I've ever had. (over 20yrs on 2 wheels)
I did a track day with my CR.I've been out of my mind ever since. I NEED to get get back to the track. Maybe go do a trackday with your 1125 and awaken the beast that is the 1125....or get a kawahondayamzuki like the masses.in fact, what do you want for your 1125?
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Jackgraves
Posted on Sunday, June 06, 2010 - 02:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I dont know I have at least 2000 to 2500 in mods on it. I do plenty of trackdays at jennings fl.
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Spectrum
Posted on Sunday, June 06, 2010 - 04:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have 22K miles on my 08 1125R. I've had only minor issue and all have been fixed under warranty or via recall. There are a number of folks on here who have far more trouble free miles on their bikes than I.

The problems are published here, but most of the positive experiences are not.

(Message edited by Spectrum on June 06, 2010)
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Ccryder
Posted on Sunday, June 06, 2010 - 10:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

All bikes at one time or another may have a problem or two. The key is Dealer support. Bumpus and their crew have been great! My r had the same failure as yours and they made it good, end of story and 10,000 s'miles ago.

Later
Neil S.
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Dirty_john
Posted on Monday, June 07, 2010 - 11:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

anything designed and made by man has the potential to go wrong, there will always be "problem" examples from every manufacturer - get a grip - go buy a UJM and stop wasting time on this forum, this is for Buell enthusiasts
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Jackgraves
Posted on Monday, June 07, 2010 - 12:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Man some of you on this site are little bitc..s, dirtylittlejohn, rocketspinkter
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No_rice
Posted on Monday, June 07, 2010 - 12:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I dont know I have at least 2000 to 2500 in mods on it. I do plenty of trackdays at jennings fl.

wish you would have been around when i was there for a monday trackday. i couldnt get anyone to go so i went myself. did run into a deeley's 1125 race bike there though. had a whole contingent down from canada playing for a few days.

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Froggy
Posted on Monday, June 07, 2010 - 12:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jackgraves, I am done with your negative attitude, you are out of here.
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Cravacor
Posted on Monday, June 07, 2010 - 01:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You are a trip Froggy.
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Court
Posted on Monday, June 07, 2010 - 02:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>I guess people cant have opinions in this forum.

You can.

But we require that they accompany a mind.
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Cravacor
Posted on Monday, June 07, 2010 - 02:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thought police!
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Tailpipe_licker
Posted on Monday, June 07, 2010 - 05:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mcballpeenis, I believe the 24 month warranty is correct. That is what I have on mine. Glad I do!... I had to have my clutch replaced already at 3,300 miles.

I like this bike. Do I need to get a power commander for it? I have a lot of carbon and deposits dusting out the exhaust pipe. Does this mean I'm running rich? Could it be oil burning? I think it's running rich, the soot in the exhaust pipe tastes like burnt fuel rather than oil.

Anybody here live in Alaska? Up for a track day to run our buells together?
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