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Syonyk
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 11:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Let's say I want to do some 1000 mile days on an R - long solo touring.

I've got a set of Cortech bags for the rear (tailbag/saddlebags), so I think I'm mostly set for storage.

What would be good comfort mods to make this a bit more agreeable? I've done 350-400 mile days, and I'm definitely feeling it by then.

Suggestions? : D
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Mikellyjo
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 11:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Guess that depends on how tall you are and what your riding style is. Personally at 6'4 I needed the Buell comfort seat to make 700 mile days. I would recommend a set of drop pegs to give you a more knee room. That's my next mod.

Somebody here did the convertibar mod. IMHO any mod that gets you into a more upright riding position will extend your ride time.

Of course there are the purist on BW that will say go buy an ST for long rides and keep the R for the twisties and the track...agreed, but I am a glutton for punishment.



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Duphuckincati
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 11:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Have you done 1000m days on any motorcycle yet? I wouldn't exactly call that "touring" though. And I would think that stopping for gas every 120 miles or so would screw with average speeds, but I guess you're not really talking about entering the Iron Butt anyway.
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Froggy
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 11:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hard to say without knowing you and what is comfortable and what is not, but for me all I did was swap the stock seat to become 600+ mile day comfortable. Haven't tried a 1k yet day yet.
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Tyrroneous
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 11:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

On my recent trip out to NC and neighboring states, my longest day was 550mi. I'm pretty short, 5'6", and was wishing for bars slightly taller and with a shorter reach. Otherwise though, I was okay. The seat is fine. Pegs are fine. The bike got over 42mpg on the way out there (cruising at 70-80 on backroads). So fuel range will go up to 170 or so miles per tank while cruising.
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Ccryder
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 11:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Some links:
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/290 431/525759.html?1273345192

IMHO:
Seat
Bars
Pegs
Windshield

I went with a Rick Mayer seat, Convertibars, Uly pegs, ZG double bubble and, a Throttlemeister.

After the comfort you may want: GPS, radar detector, Sat Radio, MP3 player. On longer trips I tend to get bored so I have equipped my 1125rt and ST with 50+ farkels that I use on a daily basis. But....... you need to stay focused on riding and not get distracted.

Mike, BTW my 2 up bike is an 04' ST1300 with 84,000 s'miles.

Neil S.
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Jaimec
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 11:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hard enough to do 800 mile days with my K1200LT. Can't IMAGINE trying that on my 1125R no matter what mods I made to it.
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Froggy
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 12:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

Hard enough to do 800 mile days with my K1200LT. Can't IMAGINE trying that on my 1125R no matter what mods I made to it.




HTFU : D
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No_rice
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 12:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

oh god touring on an 1125.... lol you knew someone was gona say it... just not me!
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Gunut75
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 12:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would.....................
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Mountainstorm
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 12:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Synonk the mods I would make are a healthy dose of Paxil and a handful of Vicodan.
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Ron_luning
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 12:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rent someone else's ass to sit on.
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Syonyk
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 12:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've got serious bikelust for the K1200S/K1300S bikes, but don't think I should swing the massive cash outlay for one, at least not right now.

I'm also very curious about the 2010 Ducati Multistrada 1200, but again with the "major coin" problem.

My '81 Goldwing is /still/ in the shop (got it back, it promptly overheated, so it's back in the shop, and handles like... well, an '81 Goldwing) - I'm not sure I'll trust that for any sort of long rides in the near future, if it ever gets running properly.

It sounds like starting out with the comfort seat and possibly a set of dropped Uly pegs would be a good start. Those are both easily reversible - the raised bars are a bit more difficult to swap around, and I do plan to track it this summer at some point.

As for fuel range, on long trips I agree with 42+mpg, so 150-180 mile fillups are perfectly doable. Then there's Froggy, who probably can get 250 miles out of a tank...

Really, for some of the longer rides I'm planning, it's either tour on the Buell or take a car. :-P And I'm a stubborn SOB at times.

(Message edited by syonyk on May 14, 2010)
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Syonyk
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 12:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh, and I'm planning on ordering a set of the Throttlemeister bar ends.
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Froggy
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 12:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

Then there's Froggy, who probably can get 250 miles out of a tank...




Done it : )

(Ok I was at 230 miles was when the gas light came on, I stopped at the next gas station at about 234 miles, but 250 was very doable)
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Jaimec
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 12:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Actually, doing a 1,000 miles a day doesn't give you much opportunity to actually SEE anything...

Slow down and see the sights. Make stops and talk to people. Check out the world's largest frying pan, or stop and see "Carhenge."
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Syonyk
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 12:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Slow down and see the sights. Make stops and talk to people. Check out the world's largest frying pan, or stop and see "Carhenge."

Agreed. However, if I'm going out to a friend's wedding or something like that, and don't have unlimited time (I'm happily employed and would rather remain so), a 900-1000 mile day might be a nice option.

Still beats driving/flying... : )
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Mickeyq
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 04:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

1000 miles in one weekend--Friday-Sunday--is more like it. I have the 1" higher bars, thicker gel grips, Uly pegs, Vibranator, saddlebags, and now I NEED a good comfort seat! I can get by with the stock seat, since I stop for gas every 125 miles +/-. No passenger--my wife said no frickin way!
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Syonyk
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 04:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My goal is closer to "Thursday out, Sunday back" - 1000 miles each way.
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Jdugger
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 04:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't think there's anyone doing 1,000 miles a day on hardly any motorcycle.

You would have to *average* a whopping 80+ MPH just to get that done in 12 hours. Unless you are some kind of twisties God, there's no way you are doing that including fuel stops and reasonable breaks.

On the slab... MAYBE, but then again, why ride or even own a motorcycle if you are going to ride that crap?

Then there's the whole tires question. You are going to need fresh rubber every night or at least every other night.

If we are talking more realistic 500 mile days, I think the bike stock is pretty reasonable. A "comfort" seat would in effect lower the pegs, but my feeling is the 1125r already has VERY relaxed ergonomics for a sport bike. The pegs are quite low and the bars wide and flat.

(Message edited by jdugger on May 14, 2010)
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98s1lightning
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 04:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Where a pair of mountain bike padded shorts, you'll be amazed. But don't tell anyone as that's my little secret.
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Syonyk
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 06:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Then there's the whole tires question. You are going to need fresh rubber every night or at least every other night.

HUH?

I got 5500 miles on the stock Corsa IIIs and have some better street tires on (2CTs) now. I could do a few 2000 mile weekends without pushing the limits of my rubber.

And it would be "highways/superslab" - some twisties, but not insane twisties, mostly long & straight "crank it & cruise" roads.

Why do it on a motorcycle? Because I want to, and because I'd rather be riding than driving. : )
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Lastonetherebuys
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 07:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If I needed new rubber every 1000-2000 miles there is no way I could afford to ride the machine hell the back tire I have on it now
had about 1500 miles on it at the start of this season and I have put on about 2000 miles this year so far and there is prob 1500 more before the wear bars
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Jdugger
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 07:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's back to the whole "how are you riding".

Come hang with us the mountains of Arkansas. We set the pace at about 70-75 and don't go faster and don't go much slower no matter what the road throws at us.

If you keep up, your tires won't last longer than 1200 miles. Most of us average 800-1100 miles a set, across quite a diversity of different bikes, from twins, to 600 and 1000 i4s, to one guy on a KTM 690 motard that's through a Diablo every 600 miles or so.

From my perspective, I'd rather put the bike in the truck for the slab and save my rubber for the good bits.

5000 miles out of a Corsa III is *insane*. Lord knows there's a dozen guys on this board getting that kind of mileage out of them, and $100 says not a one keeps a brisk pace in the mountains. Cornering loads tear up tires.

If I get two full days (about 1k miles) out of a set of tires in Arkansas, that's a great weekend.
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 07:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's back to the whole "how are you riding".

i used to think you were nuts for going thru tires so quickly, however i just burnt thru a Q2 rear tire in 1,500 miles. I usually go straight to the good roads and go like hell for about 50 miles. I agree 100% about the slab.
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Syonyk
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 07:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

5000 miles out of a Corsa III is *insane*. Lord knows there's a dozen guys on this board getting that kind of mileage out of them, and $100 says not a one keeps a brisk pace in the mountains. Cornering loads tear up tires.

*waves*

Maybe it was 5000.

Either way, I mostly commute/ride around town (say, 95% of my riding). I'm not tearing up twisty mountain roads frequently, and when I do, I don't push it terribly hard as the good roads around here are well known for the cops - they sit at the top of the mountain, watch for people on bikes speeding, and pull 'em over a few miles later. So at least for the close mountain roads, anything faster than a rather scenic pace gets expensive quickly.

I'm sure I couldn't keep up with someone who regularly rides mountains hard, as I don't do it consistently.

I also don't mind 500 miles of reasonably straight highway riding.
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Froggy
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 07:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

On the slab... MAYBE, but then again, why ride or even own a motorcycle if you are going to ride that crap?




?

90% of my riding is highway. No stop and go, no BS.


quote:

If you keep up, your tires won't last longer than 1200 miles. Most of us average 800-1100 miles a set,




Apparently "most of us" is less than 1% of 1125 owners. I got 7k miles on my last set of Corsa III's, and 15k on Pirelli Scorpion motard tires on my XB. If I got only a weekends worth of riding out of a tire, I would switch brands ASAP.
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Jdugger
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 07:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

> So at least for the close mountain roads, anything faster than a rather scenic pace gets expensive quickly.

yea, that sucks. We are a mostly an older group, but do enjoy spirited riding. We consider it responsible in that we keep the straight speeds down, but we are carrying a good bit of clip in the corners.

That said, last summer the Taos chief of police let us know the town wasn't big enough for both of us, and his deputies had the keys to the jail. It was our choice...

We left for Texas that evening...
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Jdugger
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 07:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

> Apparently "most of us" is less than 1% of 1125 owners.

c'mon Froggy... you are an outlier at very best. You get otherwise unheard of MPG and tire life.

There's no question that riding on straight slab with consistent speed will help to achieve both.

It's just not my idea of fun.

This is my idea of fun:

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&g eocode=&q=from:+mt+judea,+ar+to:+lurton,+ar&sll=37 .0625,-95.677068&sspn=37.052328,56.513672&ie=UTF8& ll=35.844813,-93.043556&spn=0.148333,0.220757&t=h& z=12

Try it sometime... you might like it.
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Syonyk
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 10:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

From my perspective, I'd rather put the bike in the truck for the slab and save my rubber for the good bits.

Great idea!

You can trailer your bike to Sturgis too!
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