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Tomcrane
Posted on Wednesday, May 05, 2010 - 08:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So i am new to buells

my bike is a 09 CR with latest flash 152 .. it has 330 miles on it

normally when I start up .. I get the check engine light for a few seconds then it goes out .. from reading here it appears that its due to the dealer not erasing stored codes after the reflash

heres where the oil question comes in

today I started up the bike and the oil light came on for like 2 seconds then went away .. doesnt come on while riding and the bike appears to be running fine

anyone have any idea what that means ?

Thanks
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Mrrickbo
Posted on Wednesday, May 05, 2010 - 09:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ok, I hope you can follow me here.

Check Engine light:
It comes on for 4 seconds and goes off and doesn't come back on. No Code
Comes on for 4 seconds, goes off for 4 seconds, comes on again for 8 seconds and off again. Historic Code (After 50 on/off key cycles, it will clear itself)
Comes on for 4 seconds, off for 4, comes on and stays on. Current Code

Oil Light: Light comes on until it builds up.

(Message edited by mrrickbo on May 05, 2010)
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Jelomadnes
Posted on Wednesday, May 05, 2010 - 09:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sounds normal to me. My oil light always blips for a second at starting.
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Xbud
Posted on Wednesday, May 05, 2010 - 09:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Same here. Stays on until it builds pressure.
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Jdugger
Posted on Wednesday, May 05, 2010 - 09:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you brake long and hard enough, you can get the oil light to flash briefly, too.

Think 130MPH down to about 50 in 200-300 feet.
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Dktechguy112
Posted on Wednesday, May 05, 2010 - 09:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

the oil light will light up if you have low oil pressure. When you first start the bike it takes a few seconds for the oil pressure to build, while the pressure is building, aka below normal operating pressure, the oil light will be on, once the pressure builds the light will go off. The only time you have to worry is if the light stays on for more then 10 seconds.

both my bikes do this, its normal for motorcycles.

(Message edited by dktechguy112 on May 05, 2010)
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Tomcrane
Posted on Wednesday, May 05, 2010 - 11:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

thanks for the replies guys .. it just caught me off guard as it had never done this before today and my other bikes had never done this

im glad that nothing is wrong .. : )
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Captain_america
Posted on Thursday, May 06, 2010 - 11:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A stoppie will cause the light to come on for a second
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Ccryder
Posted on Thursday, May 06, 2010 - 11:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tom:

What everyone is trying to say (but are too shy) ride the sh!t out of it and it will be fine. This Rotax engine likes to be flogged. After 34,000+ s'miles mine likes hotter and harder.

(BTW mine does the same as yours on startup, I have seen it come on after hard braking)

Enjoy the ride.

Neil S.
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Tomcrane
Posted on Thursday, May 06, 2010 - 12:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for all the replies .. Im def trying to rack up the miles .. but work makes it tough

I totally understand what you guys mean by waiting for the oil pressure to build .. it concerned me because it would do it after I rode the bike .. shut it off and started it up again (think driving .. stopping for gas .. restarting) .. so that was why i was concerned .. if the engine was already hot .. oil pressure should already be there right ?

Thanks ..

I think its just a case of me being a worry wart
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Thefleshrocket
Posted on Thursday, May 06, 2010 - 10:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'd been doing some spirited backroads riding for about a half hour so the engine was nice and hot, and I late braked for a stop sign and brought the back tire a few feet off the ground right as I was coming to a stop. After the back tire came down, the oil light came on for about two seconds.

My '03 GSX-R1000 would occasionally and briefly flash the oil light after a first gear power wheelie (the only kind I can do) so I added some oil. Instead of going up to the top of the full line in the sight glass, I filled it to the top of the sight glass itself, and never had the oil light come on again.

So, has anyone just added more oil to their 1125R to successfully prevent the oil light from coming on after a stoppie? Mine has 2 3/4 quarts in it and I was thinking about adding a bit more too it, but from what I understand, these bikes are sensitive to too much oil.
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Captain_america
Posted on Thursday, May 06, 2010 - 11:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Flesh, yes I do. I have only done one oil change on my bike, Harley has done the rest while taking care of warranty things. When I changed it I put 3 quarts in and it was perfect... No oil light after a serious stoppie. When Harley did it the oil light came on when braking hard. So I added oil. Then added more and more and more and more... Added a whole quart before the light would not come on.
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Mountainstorm
Posted on Friday, May 07, 2010 - 07:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I know I will probably be told what a n00b I am but I agree with Capn. 3 quarts after a filter change and it's perfect. If I go with 2.7 or whatever like my HD mechanic does engine is louder and I get the oil light for a longer time on start up (cold).

I spent a bit of time one day doing the "by the book" oil check (revised edition) and ending up adding the rest of the 3rd quart before the dipstick read "Full" so apparently my bike likes 3 quarts after a filter change.
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Captain_america
Posted on Friday, May 07, 2010 - 03:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you add oil that means your a noob!?! hmmn thats weird!
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Freezerburn840
Posted on Friday, May 07, 2010 - 03:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

+1 with Captain and Mountain. 3 quarts on mine maybe a couple ounces more if I wanted to be anal.

(Message edited by freezerburn840 on May 07, 2010)
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Freezerburn840
Posted on Friday, May 07, 2010 - 03:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's also funny how the 2010 procedure changed.

https://www.buell.com/om/99480-10Y_en/file-6.asp#h dtopic009152

3.0 without 3.3 quarts with filter

(Message edited by freezerburn840 on May 07, 2010)
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Captain_america
Posted on Friday, May 07, 2010 - 03:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ya maybe a couple ounces just to be safe
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Thefleshrocket
Posted on Friday, May 07, 2010 - 08:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When you guys add three quarts total after an oil and filter change, how high does it read on the dipstick? Mine's an 08, which I've read takes less oil than the '09s.
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Jdugger
Posted on Monday, May 10, 2010 - 08:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

> So, has anyone just added more oil to their 1125R to successfully prevent the oil light from coming on after a stoppie?

My only comment about this is you will probably be in a modest overfill situation if you do this.

Not too big of a deal on a street bike, but on a track ride pinned against the rev limiter, you will spray oil all over everything and up into the airbox. It's a mess, let me tell you : )

On my '08, I dump 2.7. On my '09, the same. But on my 08 street, I can get 2.9 in before the hot check reads the same as the other '08?!?!? There seems to be some variability among the population of motors, which I do not understand, but who knows.
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Thefleshrocket
Posted on Monday, May 10, 2010 - 01:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't have a whole lot of experience with dry sump motors, so maybe this is a silly question. In a wet sump motor, if the oil level is too high, the crankshaft will hit the oil in the sump, churning it up and making it frothy, which in turn causes it to not pump or lubricate as well. In a dry sump motor, the sump isn't where oil is stored, so I don't think overfilling the reservoir would present nearly as big of a risk of the crankshaft foaming up the oil. Is that a correct assumption? If so, then what IS the risk involved with overfilling a dry sump engine?
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Jdugger
Posted on Monday, May 10, 2010 - 06:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, I don't know much about motors, either, but I know first hand that overfilling your 1125r means oil spray all over the airbox, under the forward portion of the seat, etc.
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