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Smit3833
Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 - 12:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So I was riding home in rush hour traffic on HWY 78 splitting lanes and a pickup truck decided to change lanes real quick without looking. I started moving over when they turned but wasn't quick enough and they hit me on my let side. I was able to ride it out and didn't do down. Fortunately I'm not hurt, it could have been a lot worse.

The side fairing lower is all scraped up and has some paint swap on it. It took a good portion of the blow. I was wearing a padded jacket and that helped a ton as well.

Just a friendly reminder, be careful out there and wear your gear!
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Boogiman1981
Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 - 01:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

good deal all things considered glad ur alright
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Duphuckincati
Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 - 01:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So just wondering, what did the truck(er) do when they realised what happened?
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Smit3833
Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 - 01:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They just swerved back into their lane after they hit me...

It was a ford ranger pickup, not to be confused with a semi-truck in which case I would be ground beef.
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Firebolt32
Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 - 06:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

splitting lanes


Glad to hear your alright but I've never understood this. I've had to do it to save my ass a few times but never just cause. I've read too many things here of people dying from this.
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Jules
Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 - 06:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What's the insurance situation like in the States for that type of incident?

In the UK you're cosidered to be partially at fault if "filtering" (splitting lanes) but it depends on the speed of the traffic (and your speed).

I've had a couple of small incidents similar to yours (over the course of 25 years riding) and normally don't bother stopping (if i get the time I just punch the door mirror off the car - obviously they don't need it anyway).

Glad to hear you're relatively unscathed though.
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Nickg
Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 - 07:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

depends on the state you live in. In NJ lane splitting is VERY illegal and can result in a reckless driving ticket depending on the policeman writing you

I think it's nuts to split and would never do it
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Firebolt32
Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 - 08:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

by here I meant Florida in which it's illegal as well. Even if it was legal there is too much of an unknown as to what a cager will do. Hell, I got hit in Dec when some dip shit ran a stop sign. I know he was trying to beat the traffic that was coming opposite of me. The fire fighters had to ask the guy to get away from me. I called that moron everything I could think of.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 - 10:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Smit's profile shows that he lives in Cali...where, if my information is correct, lane-splitting is legal.....for AIRcooled bikes.

Hmmm.....

I'm with NickG - you couldn't PAY me to split lanes. Cagers are bad enough when I have my *own* lane!
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Froggy
Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 - 10:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It is legal in Cali for all bikes.

I lane split in Jersey and Connecticut, even though its illegal there. Never had any issue other than one ticket, but the cop was nice and made it something stupid so I could just mail it in.
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Syonyk
Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 - 11:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Some would argue lane splitting is *safer* than sitting in stop and go traffic waiting for someone to rear end you.

Personally, I run in the left lane most of the time, and if traffic is coming to a stop, I'll often dart off into the shoulder. I leave myself plenty of room to stop, but if people are going to miss traffic coming to a stop and be stopped by what's in front of them, I'd rather it not be me. I'll take getting nailed by a flying bumper over being crushed by a car.
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Tbowdre
Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 - 11:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would prefer a bump on the side over being rear ended. I feel way safer between traffic than a sitting duck for someone not paying attention, busy texting or messing with the radio.

You can still get a ticket in Cali. its totally up to the cop. The law simply reads that it must be done in a safe and prudent manner. totally subjective.
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Ron_luning
Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 - 11:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes, I've received such a ticket and am now more discriminating when splitting lanes in terms of the speed of surrounding traffic.

Just yesterday I was following a motorcycle cop here in California as he split lanes on the freeway. I don't think they'd be doing it if it was proven to be more dangerous than sitting there waiting to get hit.
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Hogzilla
Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 - 11:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Glad you're ok. Seeing how people drive around here, I wouldn't split lanes unless there was a very extreme situation that warranted it. And I've never had one, nor can I think of one.
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Duphuckincati
Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 - 01:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's technically called "lane sharing" in that the law states something like if two vehicles can be side by side and remain within the boundaries of the lane it's ok. Could be in place so motorcycle cops can ride that way. You do in fact end up riding the painted line/road reflectors anyway. I just do it if traffic is stopped at a light or moving under about 25 mph. Fun actually.
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Ron_luning
Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 - 02:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I did some research when I was fighting my ticket, and there is not a law in California that specifically forbids lane sharing or lane splitting or filtering (whatever you call it). That is why it is legal, but completely subject to police interpretation.

If you know of anything in California Vehicle Code that specifically mentions or permits this activity by any name, please let us all know.
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Foxy
Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 - 03:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

in the uk if you have an accident you can curse and swear at the other party and not much else happens. Usually?

In the states do you think twice about that in case some one pulls a gun on you or do you still call them a ******* dickhead and then run away
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Captainkgb
Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 - 03:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Foxy,
I carry a gun 24/7, and find that exchange of words seldom leads to exchange of gunfire.

It would be stupid to go to jail for avenging being called a $@#*!, and I find most fellow gun owners are at least as reasonable.

Regards,
CaptainKGB
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Ccryder
Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 - 03:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

jimmy:
It's a battle of the biggest gun ;+} j/k For law abiding people (even armed citizens) it is rare to pull a gun on someone especially for something like this.

Alex is lucky. You really need to make yourself known or have an escape route planned if someone doesn't see you.

Time2Ride
Neil S.
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Foxy
Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 - 03:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

so if my wife was in the states she'd be mistaken in saying (i think he was pleased to see me) , referring to the bulge in the mans trousers as i gesticulate no you fool he's not rising to the occasion its a permanent fixture you're looking at there.

who needs viagra
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 - 06:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Good weed eh Foxy?
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Smit3833
Posted on Wednesday, April 28, 2010 - 01:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would personally rather lane share than sit in traffic, besides the inconvenience of it taking forever and my legs getting burnt up, it seems a little safer if done right.

Talking to cops its safer to be moving slightly faster than traffic, and heavy traffic (lane sharing) is no different. Also, always wear your basic gear (boots, jeans, riding jacket, gloves, helmet).

My only tips are to ride with your brights on when lane sharing, keep it in low gear so your louder, and put louder pipes on if you can stand it. Also, don't pass a car when they have the space to make a lane change if possible. If you do, change into that lane and swerve wide anticipating that the other drive will be changing into that lane also.

When I started riding I had no intention of lane splitting, I thought it was crazy and such. One ride through LA during rush hour made me learn real quick. Now I commute heavy traffic everyday and my card just came up, I would gladly take a side swipe than getting rear-ended.

I took another look at my bike this morning and it looks like my passenger peg took a hit as well. It was flipped up and the arm is bent in a bit more than the other side. I bet that left a nice mark in the side of their car.

Another tip: always ride with your pegs down, if you dump it the pegs can help save the bike when it goes down. Its also an extra bumper for side swipes apparently.
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Socalbuellriders
Posted on Wednesday, April 28, 2010 - 02:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Alex - Good to hear you came out OK. Sorry for the damage to the bike, but sounds like your cool head allowed you to ride out a situation that could have ended badly for most people.
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Xb12xmike
Posted on Wednesday, April 28, 2010 - 10:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I remember looking this up in jersey,...there is no law (written down) against it that I found. However, I think you could get a number of different tickets, depending on the officer, and the township your traveling thru and how squid-like you were riding.
-illegal lane change
-wreckless driving
-careless driving
-written warning (1st time)
-probably lots of other possibilities
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Hogzilla
Posted on Wednesday, April 28, 2010 - 11:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nearly got hit this morning from some squirrelly guy that pulled into my lane. Fortunately I was watching the guy for a while since he was adjusting his mirrors for a quarter mile and swerving into the lane. The guy looked fully baked. Fortunately he stopped cold as soon as I hit the horn.
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Black
Posted on Wednesday, April 28, 2010 - 07:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hmmmm,

Well I live in Virginia. In Virginia, we have a thing called the "Virginia T-Bone". A Virginia T-bone in when you are riding along in the far right lane minding your own business, and the guy in the go straight center lane or far left lane, decides to turn in front of you, with you having to slam on your brakes to avoid "T-boning" him. There is also the "Reverse Virginia T-Bone". That's when you are minding your own business cruising along in the center lane and the guy in the right (or left) lane beside you, who is signaling his intent to turn, suddenly turns the opposite way across your path and you have to lock it down to avoid t-boning him. I just mention this as a public service as, soon it will be time for the "Ride to the Wall". Just want you to be prepared. Seriously, in a 30 minute drive in the greater Washington metropolitan area, I see the above at least twice. Absolutely amazing out there every day. Had a motorcycle cop tell me to make sure and wear some kind of highly reflective jacket so he could say, "Let me guess..you didn't see him did you?" I think it is called gallows humor.
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Wednesday, April 28, 2010 - 07:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a high-viz yellow mesh jacket coming mail order. It really is amazing how much more a rider stands out with the god awful ugly jackets.
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Ron_luning
Posted on Wednesday, April 28, 2010 - 10:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I wear this every day for my commute, and the idiots are still too negligent to even look in the direction they are moving to notice me:

hi-viz
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Dktechguy112
Posted on Wednesday, April 28, 2010 - 11:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

in cali, the dmv mc handbook said that lane splitting is ok as long as you only go 15mph faster then traffic.
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