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Buell77
Posted on Sunday, April 04, 2010 - 04:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was wondering if anyone that has a Keda-Design exhaust ordered or have a EBR ECM?

(Message edited by buell77 on April 05, 2010)
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Froggy
Posted on Sunday, April 04, 2010 - 08:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I plan on getting one, so far the bike has been happy with the stock tune. My intent is to get my 1125CR dynoed bone stock when it goes in for the stator harness thing, then I will dyno it again the next day with the stock ecm + RT1 then later with the Race ECM + RT1. I am waiting for my Blast and 1125R to get fixed first : )
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D_adams
Posted on Sunday, April 04, 2010 - 09:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Give the stock ecm at least one week to learn.

I'm still debating on which wideband setup to try out now. Do I build it myself or just pony up the extra $300 and get the Innovate LC1 dual setup? It's a tough call, especially with not having a lot of spare time. I really want to do some serious tuning on this one to see what I can get out of it.
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Froggy
Posted on Sunday, April 04, 2010 - 09:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I can bang out a weeks worth of your riding in an afternoon : )

(Assuming it isn't a scorching hot 71° like it has been here)
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Axl_rose
Posted on Sunday, April 04, 2010 - 11:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sorry for all the dumb questions...

but your saying that the stock ECM will "learn" to tune to the new exhaust??? if thats the case, than im assuming that the EBR ECM will do the same??? and if these ECM's do "learn" the new gas to air ratios, what is the difference between "tweaking" it on a dyno vs not? what would you use to "tweak" it? a piggy back set up? I'm sorry for all the dumb ???? but ive been thinking about this for a while now and this just seemed like the oportune moment to bring it up lol

axl
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D_adams
Posted on Sunday, April 04, 2010 - 11:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It will learn up to a certain extent, but the stock fuel map is EPA limited for emissions and as such, runs a little lean. To get the maximum benefit of an open exhaust, tuning is highly recommended. Odds are, you could see a theoretical increase in power output, but another reason for tuning is to eliminate surging or rough spots in the factory tune. There are many ways to accomplish it, EBR's race ecm is probably the easiest way. Tell them what you have, they program it and send you the ecm, which you then just plug into your bike.
Dynojet is another way, or use something like ecmspy with either a dyno or a wideband O2 sensor setup and manually tune it. Regardless of which way you go, it won't exactly be cheap, but correctly implemented, they're all effective.

At this point, I really don't know which is the most cost effective for bang-for-the-buck since I haven't done any tuning yet. I'm leaning toward the wideband setup because I like to tinker and know what's going on. I'll end up blowing a lot of $$ with all the playing around.
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Easyrider
Posted on Monday, April 05, 2010 - 03:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

or look here: www.fuelsolutions.nl
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Axl_rose
Posted on Monday, April 05, 2010 - 11:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

thanks for the response guys. After hearing this i am def thinking about the EBR tuner. And i figure if i want to tune it in the future i can just send my stock or EBR EMC to fuelsolutions to have them program it further.
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Captain_america
Posted on Monday, April 05, 2010 - 11:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think that Innovate wide bands absolutely suck!

I would bet my life on one from PLX Devices... They are far superior
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D_adams
Posted on Monday, April 05, 2010 - 12:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What makes it more superior? I only mention the Innovate stuff because it's supported by ecmspy and has been tested to work with it. I'm not looking to spend a fortune doing all the tuning, but I will spend something and it will be pretty soon.
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Jackgraves
Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2010 - 08:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yo whats up dudes!!!!!!!!!
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