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Ron_luning
Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 06:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just finished washing my 1125R and now after the tach sweep during startup the left turnsignals are flashing (normal speed). No matter what is done with the switch, they continue to flash.

I had a somewhat similar problem before and others said it was because the switch got wet. This time I wrapped both left and right switch pods and the instrument cluster in Glad Press 'n' Seal to keep water out.

Because it was fairly well sealed, I am beginning to suspect that the cause is elsewhere. Hopefully some time will allow any invisible water to evaporate and it will be working once again.

I clearly can't ever wash my bike if I plan on riding it in the next few days afterward. If one was going to ride their bike after washing it, this could be a serious safety problem. Who else has had this happen?
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Spank
Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 07:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mine kept going out as well. I was told it was because the blinker itself isn't completely sealed. The mounting bolt that has the wires through it isn't sealed well (if at all) and if water gets in, it causes the problem.
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Froggy
Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 07:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Help your dealer help you. Wash the bike with the signals flashing. Focus a ton of water at various parts of the bike till it happens.

It shouldn't be an issue, I had ridden both my R and CR in downpours without any issues.
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Ron_luning
Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 08:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Froggy, I've ridden this bike in the rain before as well without any problems. That is what makes it more difficult to figure out.

Spank, are you talking about the rear turn signal when you say it isn't completely sealed? That is one area that I did not blow compressed air through to dry it out.
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Moosestang
Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 08:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You're not using a pressure washer are you? I wouldn't think so, but you never know.

Anyway, I've not experience this problem, but I removed all the stock blinkers a few weeks after buying the bike.
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Ron_luning
Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 08:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm actually using a 2 1/2" hose hooked up to the local fire hydrant...you think that could be it?

No no, just using a regular garden hose.
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Rodrob
Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 08:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Had the same thing happen. Took a day to dry out before the switch was functional again. However, the right rear signal was not working afterward.
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Moosestang
Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 08:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I also blow out my switches with compressed air after a wash. Actually I blow out every part of the bike. Am I the only one?
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Spank
Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 09:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ron, Yeah I was talking about the rear. I just reread your post and I realized I probably didn't answer your question...my apologies. I tend to read things to fast. My problem was the rears going out all the time and that was what I was told about that. I haven't had an issue like yours yet (and hope not too).
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Dirty_john
Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 02:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had this problem once only after washing my 09 1125R, put the bike back into the garage and left it there for a couple of days and the problem had gone away. Thus I need to open up the switchgear and see if there is a water ingress problem there or is it in the IC or wiring loom.
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No_rice
Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 09:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yep, my indicator on the dash came on as though it should be blinking after a wash. (no signals on the bike) once it dried out it was fine. and i ride it in the rain plenty to. only did it once while washing.
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Ron_luning
Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 07:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

24 hours after sitting in the garage the bike still showed the same problems. So I proceeded to blow everything out with compressed air, including the front and rear turn signal bullet connectors, the wiring harness, the inside of the turn signal switch, and the connector into the back of the instrument cluster. All appeared dry to begin with, but I gave them a shot of air anyway. After that, it still had the turn signals doing very strange things (i.e. left switch makes right signals flash, right switch makes left signals flash and neutral switch makes left signals flash).

I opened up the left switch housing and used a multimeter to see if it was working correctly. As expected, with the switch in a left or right position the corresponding wires inside showed a "short". When the switch was in the neutral position, the wires showed an "open". The switch is therefore not the problem. I figured I might as well test voltage across the wires when the signals were flashing just to see. When the left signals were flashing (against the will of the switch or not) the left switch wires showed a 3.5V difference. The right side switch wires showed a 6.5V difference when the right signals were flashing. I was measuring VDC with a crappy multimeter, so I realize that the intermittent on/off nature of the flashing turnsignal probably resulted in useless VDC readings, but there you have anyway.

Since it still wasn't working properly, and if I played around with the switch enough times I could get the signals to stop flashing altogether, I figured I would ride the bike for a bit to see if that helped. It took about 15 miles of freeway and surface streets to make the signals work correctly again. I couldn't begin to guess what the hell would make this happen in the first place (as posted above the cluster was covered in plastic wrap to keep it dry while washing the bike), let alone how every connector in the turn signal system could be dry but then somehow not dry.

There must be something that is entirely not related to the turn signal system that is getting wet and f'ing around with the instrument cluster's turn signal function. What this unrelated item is will likely remain a mystery.
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Froggy
Posted on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 03:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just a shot in the dark, could it be the cluster acting up? I know you wrapped it to prevent water getting in, but what if it still got in?
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Jpinkerton
Posted on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 03:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a 2009 1125CR and when I purchased the bike from the dealer (1000+) miles on it, the rear left blinker was not working during the final walk-around so they replaced it under warranty. The March 2010 Motorcyclist has a CR long term bike and they claim they have had to replace 2 blown rear signals already! It sucks for people out of warranty because the signals cost $50 each.
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Froggy
Posted on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 03:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This isn't the bad rear signal issue, and if you did get a bad rear signal you got a 99% chance of it failing during the two year warranty,
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Ron_luning
Posted on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 05:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It could be the cluster. I'll find out soon because I just got back from a ride and went down a road that was covered in dirt and standing water. The lower half and tailsection are filthy, so I'll wash just those areas. If no water is sprayed even in the vicinity of the cluster and it has this problem, it can't be the cluster.
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Therealassmikeg
Posted on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 06:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll throw out a couple of questions...
Then some advice..
When you unplug the l/s switch assy from the harness does it still malfunction?
Did you check the I/P ground? (on the steering stem).
Did you look at the I/P connector on both sides and confirm there's no corrosion
on terminals or between terminals of the connector and I/P (look closely).

You may want to find an electrical cleaner/contact enhancement type product to spray
on the terminals then blow it all out and put di-electric grease in connectors to prevent corrosion.

The drivers for the turn signals are in the I/P. If you still experience the problem It could very well be in the I/P.
Your servicing dealer will have to confirm that of course...
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Ron_luning
Posted on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 08:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well after washing the bike bottom and rear, the turn signal problem did not occur.

Next time it does happen, I'll check those items mentioned above.

The plug and socket in the back of the instrument cluster were dry and free of corrosion. In fact I'd say they looked brand new. Most of the connectors are virtually new looking because of the lack of rain and moisture here in southern California.
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Aplejuce
Posted on Thursday, February 25, 2010 - 03:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have had the same issue!! sadly, my bike has to sit outside.. and it was rainy and wet when it started.. i had to ride it into school... i parked it in the ramp where it wouldn't get more wet, and after classes (about 3 hours of the warm engine drying the bike), everythign worked fine. hasn't happened since.. but im sure it will....

sorry i dont have much to contribute.
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