| Author | Message | ||
     Westmoorenerd |
Figure I'd start a new thread with 1/4 mile times for reference. I ran tonight for the first time, bike only has a K&N. Conditions: 80F and 78% humidity. I only ran 5x but I managed an 11.79 @ 125.25MPH. Highest trap was 128.22MPH. | ||
| Ponti1 |
Interesting...Do you feel you had good starts? What was reaction time? I have not seen anyone else post 1/4 results using a CR, but know that we have had a number of people post them from running the R. Seems, from memory only, that those were running in the very low 10 range, also basically stock. Like I said that could be wrong since I didn't look up the threads. Anyway, if that is a realistic difference to expect between the two models, do you think it is because the CR is geared shorter? | ||
| Westmoorenerd |
I didn't get a good start at all... Like I said it was my first time dragging my bike...well any bike, so I was a little on the edge. Only one lane had a working 60' sensor and the one run I did in that lane got me at a 2.38, so there's some room for improvement. I feel with practice and more confidence I'll be in the 10s | ||
| Mountainstorm |
How does the bike launch? Do you have to feather the clutch to keep the wheel down? Any wheel spin? | ||
| Fast1075 |
Keep at it...it takes YEARS to learn how to ride at the dragstrip (and get max performance), especially on high powered equipment...contrary to what so many think that "all you do is throttle it and bang the gears"... | ||
| Kirb |
I tried to drag my '99M2 back in the day...yikes. I learned a few things- buells are not drag bikes and I suck at trying to run one. I can't imagine the CR is any better. Short wheelbase and lots o' power does not a good drag bike make. You spend the whole time trying to keep the front end down. | ||
| Tbenson |
Good job for a first outing! That launch and 60' foot can be tricky. If you plan on making more runs, try strapping the front end down. | ||
| Blackflash |
I agree with troy.Thats where you'll gain time.I ran 10.50s 131 mph consistantly. | ||
| T_man |
Here's a pertinent question: Do all the popular magazines run as is 1/4 mile times or corrected 1/4 mile times? The difference can be huge. For example I ran 10.9 @ 131mph at a strip at 2500ft above sea level at a temperature of 90F - resulting in a density altitude of roughly 4500ft. The 'corrected' 1/4 mile time is then 10.3 @ 137mph. Huge difference. | ||
| Moosestang |
How does the bike launch? Do you have to feather the clutch to keep the wheel down? Any wheel spin? Do you own a different bike than the rest of us? I can't keep the wheel down short shifting into second on my cr. I've never even given it full throttle in 1st. 2.38 is not a good 60 foot time, but you knew that. You could easily knock a second off that time with some practice launching the bike. 10.8 is the only other CR time i've seen posted and he had a 1.9 60 foot, I think. They say for every .10 off your 60 foot, it equals .20 off your ET, which would make sense judging by the other CR's time. I've never dragged a bike, to scared. I've taken my mustang to the track and had a 2.38 60 foot time spinning all of 1st gear and ended up with a 12.9@118mph, so i know something about bad 60 foot times. Reaction time does not affect your ET. It will cause you to win or lose a race, but it will not change your 1/4 mile time. | ||
| Benzo_mike |
I have run my bone stock 1125CR at the track quite a bit - maybe 100 passes or so this past summer/fall. The tracks I run at are at about 500 feet elevation, and I have run in some pretty good air (as low as +400 ft DA). Previous to this summer, it had been 16 years since I had run bikes at the track (quite extensively then, but none in the interim). I weigh about 230 pounds in full gear and for reference I have a lot to live for (so no full-throttle tire-smoking wheel-in-the-sky no-lift stuff). When it gets crazy (and it will with little provocation), I throttle back some. I have run a best 11.01/132, with a typical pass in decent air in the 11.3/129 range. Best 60-foot around 1.85, typically high 1.9's. Power shifting gears 3-5 is worth a ton of time and MPH (tuck in, keep the throttle pinned, keep the shifter preloaded and run it headlong into the rev limiter in gears 2, 3, and 4). Just remember to let off and re-tension the shifter after each shift. As for the launch, get both feet down on your tiptoes and get WAAAY forward over the bars. Stage as shallow as you can (just barely turn on the stage light). Two fingers on the clutch lever, only (you will never get it released aggressively enough with 4 fingers, as you'll be gripping reflexively as the bike comes out of the hole). Get the clutch out right to the point of engagement as you stage , so the slightest release will engage and get the bike rolling. You will never be able to get to WOT in 1st gear, I think it's impossible without flipping over backward. The key is to get the clutch out and fully engaged as quickly as possible (slipping it against steadily opening throttle, not snapping it out and bogging or wheelying like crazy), then with it engaged continuing to wind the throttle as aggressively as possible. 1st gear is relatively unmanageable, so it's critical to get it into 2nd gear with the throttle pinned as quickly as possible. I short-shift at about 7000-8000 RPM. If you try to run it out in 1st, you'll be wasting a ton of time winding it up to the rev limiter at part throttle. Once you're there (wide open in 2nd), you're just along for the ride (no throttle or clutch inputs the rest of the way, just a series of throttle-pinned clutchless power shifts). With a decent 60-foot (in the 1.9's or better), the make-or-break will be from the point of full clutch engagement until you are tucked in with the throttle pinned in 2nd. You will be amazed at how long you can fiddle-fart through 1st gear and into 2nd (and you have to make the 1-2 with the clutch, I wouldn't dare try to powershift it at redline) until you get the throttle open and trucking. That's where the run is made (or squandered). Keep your weight as far forward over the bars as possible all the way down. It will come up pretty good through the upper RPM in 2nd gear, but shouldn't get too hairy if you stay forward and ride through it. It will come up in 3rd sometimes as well, and that can be a real crowd pleaser as you're talking about 100+ MPH in the upper reaches of 3rd and it will pack some air under the bike and try to rotate over on top of you. If you have to slam a big wheelie down to avoid the 400-pound flyswatter, it will go into a very scary headshake when it hits and the suspension compresses down. Stay on the power and drive straight through it. The difference between the low-10-second heroes and 11-flat hacks like me is all in 1st gear and perhaps the first sliver of 2nd. You need some big ones, excellent clutch control, and perhaps a small physique to run down in the "magazine times" range. Best of luck. (Message edited by benzo_mike on February 05, 2010) | ||
| Xtreme6669 |
i RAN A 10.88 AT 128.?? DON'T REMEMBER THE 60... | ||
| Illbuell |
Wow some very depressing times from 1125. Need a pro rider to test her out.. It wasn't really designed for the strip anyway.. But I would have thought low tens would be easy for it.. | ||
| Benzo_mike |
It has the horsepower to trap at least 132 MPH, so it certainly has low-10-second potential. That would be with a very light pro-caliber rider on board. Traction is not a problem, given the wheelbase and extreme weight transfer. Wheelie management is a major problem, though. You just can't hammer it out of the hole like a Busa or ZX-14. I think a really competent rider of average size should be able to run mid/high 10's, which is pretty stout for a short wheelbase, relatively affordable, stock v-twin. | ||
| Lastonetherebuys |
I can only dream about drag racing at this time of year prob atleast a month and a half befor i can get my first ride in and begining of may at the earliest for drag race season | ||
| Moosestang |
i RAN A 10.88 AT 128.?? DON'T REMEMBER THE 60... You are the 10.8 I mentioned. I think you posted 1.8 or 1.9 60 foot. }Wow some very depressing times from 1125. Need a pro rider to test her out.. It wasn't really designed for the strip anyway.. But I would have thought low tens would be easy for it.. Even a pro rider can't overcome the short gearing and short wheelbase of the cr. I'm sure it can run low 10's or even high 9's with a stretch and some tuning. | ||
| Westmoorenerd |
Wow, sorry to disappoint people with my 1/4 mile time...at least everyone who has actually drag raced before realized the difficulty on launching a high HP, short wheel base motorcycle. And like I said that was my first time ever drag racing a motorcycle, and I'm confident I can drop into the 10's with practice.... Tell you what it's a lot harder to drag a bike than my old Mustang! | ||
| 46champ |
It sounds like someone needs to get Pingle to make wheelie bars for 1125s. They make them for XB's and they can't be that much different. (Message edited by 46champ on February 05, 2010) | ||
| Illbuell |
No just you westmoore, everyones times. Def looks like a job for a pro rider.. Any pro riders out there feel like taking their 40K Buell to the strip...LOL | ||
| Americanmadexb |
I'm taking mine to the strip this summer.. It's staying BONE STOCK all year.. I like to leave a new bike stock for at least 1 year to get used to it and work the bugs out.. I am about 250# with gear and i will be happy to run 11 flat! | ||
| Benzo_mike |
West - I've certainly seen worse numbers for a first-timer. Get the 60 down to at least a 2.0 and you will be in the low-11's. My brother (who also has a 2009 1125R in the stable) ran his ZX-12R for the first time this fall. I think he got hypnotized and crossed-up watching me tear away from him on the CR and ran a 12.8/117 his first pass. Never even realized he didn't have the throttle all the way open. We made a bunch more runs and he eventually got it down to a respectable-for-a-first-timer 10.8/135. Practice, practice, practice. A 2.3 60 is really, really, bad, but it will improve - a lot if you keep at it. It's almost impossible to improve this skill on the street - you need to get on a prepared track. | ||
| Illbuell |
I wanta see these numbers from a stock Buell.. Or mine is for sale..LOL  | ||
| Illbuell |
At lest these times.. or its a turd.  | ||
| Moosestang |
You'll never get 60's that low on this bike without a modified swing arm or wheelie bars. | ||
| Dannybuell |
for sure what Moosetang said. dannybuell | ||
| Moosestang |
Even with wheelie bars I don't think it has the power to pull that off. | ||
| Westmoorenerd |
What's lilbutquick running? | ||
| Illbuell |
I was mainly meaning the end result guys. I ran 6.30's 1/8s on my stock 1999 ZX9R. I would hope the Buell could do better (Message edited by illbuell on February 05, 2010) | ||
| Puredrive |
noob Q: when you take a bike to the drag strip. Is a burnout a requirement? | ||
| Firebolt020283 |
It is not a requirement but it does help scuff up new tires as well as put heat in them. |
