| Author | Message | ||
     Froggy |
... coming to a red light, the dash starts flashing CT COLD, right after you have been on the highway for half an hour. The AT sensor was showing 22°F before I started the bike and headed home. I forget how much power these things have, I almost overshot a turn because I goose the throttle a little too much and it straightened out mid turn. I think I will stick to the Blast till it warms back up!  | ||
| Chameleon |
Mine flashes like that occasionally while on the highway at speed. I put her in the shop today so they can check it out, along with a couple other minor annoyances like the fuel & engine light staying on until the bike gets warmer than 165F if it's started when the ambient temperature is very cold (<40ish). BTW, I know it's cold when... I am the only motorcyclist on the road during my 70 mile daily commute. Of course, I suppose I'm just a little crazy being out there at 16F. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
Please report back about the CEL-LFL issue and how the dealer handles it. | ||
| Cmmfiremedic |
Mine is in the shop right now for the same thing. First they are going to change the guage cluster out and if that don't work they are going to replace the float in tank and the sensor. Who knows when I will get it back. | ||
| Ccryder |
I've had mine drop to the ct temp at highway speeds due to wind chill. No float, just a sensor to determine when the level drops to a certain point. | ||
| Justa4banger |
I noticed the other day when it was cold that my CT and AT were reading REAL SLOW. normally the AT jumps around quite a bit i know it is not really accurate but when it was cold out i noticed that it would take a few minutes to update itself.... I drove around for 10 min, after stopping for gas, and the AT was at 99* Clearly it was in the upper 30's I figure i'll wait a while and see else happens to the cluster... maybe i can upgrade to an 09 cluster... i dunno if thats worth it.. and yea its definitely cold when the computer triggers the COLD on the cluster... You also realize that when its cold it limits your RPMS... that could be bad on the freeway if you needed the oooomph. | ||
| Ponti1 |
Interesting thread. My 2008 only will show AT as low as 33 degrees. Went to work the other morning at 24 degrees, but still shows 33 even at highways speed where engine heat radiating to the sensor is not a factor. | ||
| Froggy |
The only time the AT would be "accurate" and the same as the ambient air temp would be if the bike was parked for a few hours, and you look at what it says before starting the bike. Once you start it, it won't take long for the engine heat to radiate onto the sensor giving a higher reading. Mine still hit 70°F at points during the the ride home, yet it was in the 20's. The radiator heat is still warming the sensor when you are on the highway, all the hot air is blown from the pods inward right into the air intake. | ||
| Ponti1 |
Way different experience here, Froggy. Mine will read about 5-7 degrees hot at 30-40 MPH, but is typically accurate within a degree or so at over 65 MPH. This has been noted in ambient temps from mid-30s up to upper-90s, and is always consistent. I leave my display on AT/CT always, and paying attention to temps is one of the "games" I play to break up boredom of highway commuting. | ||
| Froggy |
Leave your display on Average MPG and try and keep it above 50, it is more fun  | ||
| Justa4banger |
I wonder how the bike would react if i moved that sensor........hmmmm | ||
| Froggy |
Why would you move it? It measures the temperature of the air going into the motor. If it says its 70°, then the air coming in is 70°, obviously as long as the sensor hasn't malfunctioned, which might throw a code. Just because its 40 out doesn't mean the air it is sucking in is 40. | ||
| Justa4banger |
I understand that... I would be curious too see if there would be any gain in power by moving the AT sensor to an area that isn't so hot all the time... on the flip side summer driving could be a problem since the intake will be MUCH hotter than the ambient temp...the AT sensor i'm sure ties into the timing mapping tables.. it could cause issues with detonation... It was just a thought froggy  | ||
| Chameleon |
Cmmfiremedic: Gauge cluster won't help... Except to give you the shift & voltage indicators. My dealer also thought it would help with both issues and it seemed to for a short while, but the issues soon resumed their daily annoyance. They had to replace my left side mirror assembly also since the glass in it FELL OFF due to getting too cold. I knew it was going to come off soon because it started getting very shaky and loose. The plastic broke at the attachment point... I noticed it the day after we got our coldest night... I'm guessing some moisture was somehow in the assembly and it froze and weakened the plastic... Fortunately they believed me when I told them it looked like it was about to fail and ordered a replacement in advance. My right mirror's LEDs gave out about 2 weeks ago. (Message edited by chameleon on December 26, 2009) | ||
| Evc17 |
All I got to say is ,it is awesome you gentlemen still get to ride! Up here in Edmonton we have 2 feet of snow and really cold. You all ride safe and enjoy holidays. | ||
| Nickg |
froggy, how long does your bike crank before starting? mine cranks but no fire... | ||
| Froggy |
Approximately a second of holding the starter button down. It does take a bit longer to start than in the summer, but I haven't switched to lighter oil yet like I did on the Blast. | ||
| Nickg |
then i have a problem...mine will roll over for a LONG time..no start | ||
| Chameleon |
I have difficulty starting mine when it's very cold out... It'll crank for about 1 second and then start clicking with the battery light on like it has insufficient power to turn over if I just hold it. What I find that works best is if I flick the starter briefly a few times to get the parts moving and circulate the fluids, then hold it and it'll fire up. I'm still running Syn3 oil. | ||
| Chameleon |
Forgot to mention that I put it on a battery tender every night and leave it plugged in until it's running. Nick: If you don't use a tender, you may want to do so. I asked the dealer to check the battery and charging system while it's in the shop... it's probably fine, but I want to be sure. | ||
| Zac4mac |
When I go out to start Loretta, around 20F it will take 2 or 3 tries before she fires/starts. My Jeep is the same way. 18F now, gonna try and ride in to work this morning. Z | ||
| Nickg |
i use a tender always. I rolled it out today...it rolls over...sneezes and spits an then fired up. I let it fully warm up, rode it around the bl0ck and ran some stabil into it. seems to start better now, i guess it was just loaded up | ||
| Kidder |
I use a Battery Tender, Jr., as well. I switch it between my two bikes on a regular basis. It's a trickle/smart charger. So, it will go into maintenance mode once the battery is fully charged. I do this all year because heat is hard on a battery, as well. | ||
| Zac4mac |
Rode to work the last couple of days. Still have a bit of ice to navigate at both ends of the trip, but I'm getting used to that. Ride in to work has been 11-14, trip home 25-30. I need a little ducted heater for my helmet... | ||
| Chameleon |
I've been riding my wife's V-Rod while my 1125R is in the shop... The roads were icy near my house and it was very foggy. The fog kept freezing to my visor. Roads were fine once I got to the freeway and the fog cleared once I rode up out of the valley. Don't know exact temps because the V-Rod doesn't report them, but Weather.com said it was 33. Much warmer than where Zac is... | ||
| Mountainstorm |
Down in the teens here in SW VA too. The X-1 loves it I have not taken the 1125r out below 27F yet. The windscreen directs cold air right at my adams apple. My fault for having a long torso I guess. There is still some black ice here and there after all the snow we've had so I am waiting a few more days before hitting the BlueRidge Parkway. | ||
| Moosestang |
Getting down in the 20's here in Florida. I will not be riding until the lows are in the upper 30's again. Highs are only expected to be in the 40's!!!!!!!! My gear isn't up to the task. How can you ride in 30 degree temps without a neck warmer or balaclava? I use both, lol! | ||
| Froggy |
 I use the Buell neck gator promo thing from a few years back. | ||
| Xodot |
-21 Celsius (minus 6 F) here - It'll be a while yet  | ||
| Hogzilla |
I have 30 feet of ice in the alley between the garage and the salty road so the bike is staying in the garage a while longer. Hats off to those getting out there though. |
