| Author | Message | ||
     Ft_bstrd |
I don't have the manual in front of me, and the service techs are out today. I am hoping someone can tell me the error code I need. I believe we have a bad fuel level sender on a bike and want to confirm that this is the case. Can someone tell me the error code for this? Thanks. | ||
| Walt |
Fuel level Sender Low/Med/High B1004: Low B1005: High / Open | ||
| Walt |
Fuel Pressure Sensor P0192: Fuel Pressure Sensor circuit low P0193: Fuel Pressure Sensor circuit high P0087: Fuel Pressure Sensor too low | ||
| Zac4mac |
Jeremy - Loretta is waiting on a fuel pump to fix a bad(out of range) sensor. Symptom - LFL and CEL come on around transition to Op Temp when less than 40F outside. DTC - B1005 Zack | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Yep. That's what's happening. LFL and CEL at temperatures around 25*. Goes out when motorcycle reached operating temperature. My guess is that it's the B1005 error code. | ||
| Rkc00 |
This was happening to mine today. On and off 3 times on the way to work today. Mike Long Island, NY 09 XB12X Red/Black 09 1125CR Black/White 06 VRSCR Blue/Silver | ||
| Anonymous |
Guys have the dealer replace your cluster instead of your pump. There is a bug in clusters software that is causing this issue. They will only replace the cluster under warranty if it is having this issue but if you are get the new cluster which should be running sw 6.2 for 08/09 bikes and sw 7.1 for 10 bikes. 7.1 is the same sw as 6.2, the only difference is in the hardware since 2010 clusters are built for bulb turn signals on the front and rear. | ||
| Rkc00 |
Thanks Anony Mike Long Island, NY 09 XB12X Red/Black 09 1125CR Black/White 06 VRSCR Blue/Silver | ||
| Americanmadexb |
Jeremy, Im guessing your asking because of my issue I had. Thanks for looking into it. I'm going to start it up when I get home in about an hour to triple check the lfl and cell again. I need to read manual to see how I can get the codes. Either way sounds like an easy fix. And if this only happens under 40 I could live with it unless it affects my fuel range. | ||
| Dirty_john |
same problem happened to my 09 1125R last winter, when the fuel is cold the resistance of the fuel level unit is out of the expected range and an error code is posted. The LFL/CEl goes out when radiated heat from the engine gets through the frame and warms the fuel up. If this happens to me again this winter it will be a warranty claim for a new pump/level sender. | ||
| Dirty_john |
why should you live with the problem, its a fit for purpose issue - spoils a great bike | ||
| Americanmadexb |
Well, fired it up and NO lights.. I'm not sure it fixed itself, but we will see. I will look more into this spring i guess. Unless we get some 50 degree days with dry roads anytime before then Thanks again Jeremy! | ||
| Reducati |
i have the same issue on my 09 cr...probably wont bring it in till spring, but the cluster you speak of, is it readily available at the dealer? is there complications if i dont get it replaced? the lights both turn off after about a minute of cold riding. also, is the cluster a part that the service writer will know, or is there a formal name for it? thanks | ||
| Anonymous |
Yes the service cluster is available. The tech service reps know of this issue. If your dealer isn't aware of it (which they should be but we all know that isn't always the case) have the dealer contact tech service and they will authorize it. | ||
| Tpoppa |
Good info. I have the 6.1 cluster on my '09 R and I have this issue occasionally. If it get's above freezing, I'll get my bike to the dealer. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Jeremy, Im guessing your asking because of my issue I had. Thanks for looking into it. Yeah, I started the thread on Sunday while our tech folks/Buell techs were out of pocket. I don't think it's a major issue, but I wanted to make sure we had some details for you. Unfortunately, this issue is temperature related and didn't show up until your rig got to the frosty north. Keep your eye on it. You've got two years to get it knocked out. I agree, though, that it isn't something you should "live with". Chadhargis' CR had this issue, but it was the fuel sender and not temperature related. Ian, keep us posted! | ||
| Americanmadexb |
You've got two years to get it knocked out. Make that 6...  Let's just hope they honor the warrenty for that long! I will keep ya updated. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Funny thing, contracts. You know we'll keep the light on regardless. | ||
| Barker |
Mine does it every time its under 40ish degrees. I guess I need to drop it off @ bumpus. | ||
| Zac4mac |
My IC is an 09 that I got when the original IC lost use of the toggle button. It shows SW 6.1 when in Diag Mode. However, my level sensor is out of range at 2000-2200 Ohms with a temp of ~50F. From Tech Tip 396: "When measuring the resistance between terminals D and A of the fuel pump connector [86B], the resistance measured should be between 850-1400 ohms." When we called Tech Services, they said to replace the pump, not the IC. Replacing the IC was a fix for "intermittent LFL" issues IIRC. Zack | ||
| Anonymous |
Just for clarification. While you are all correct in that the fuel level sender is a factor in why you are getting the LFL/CEL, the reason the lights are being thrown is due to the cluster checking for the LF sensor open condition when it shouldn't be. So if you want this issue corrected replace the cluster, not the pump. | ||
| Bobbuell1961 |
Anony, thanks again | ||
| Dirty_john |
Thanks Anonymous, I will be in contact with my dealer here in the UK at the weekend to make a warranty claim since I am also getting very bad condensation in the IC of my 09 1125R as well as the LFL/CEL issue again now that the weather has turned cold. | ||
| Zac4mac |
Thanks Anony, just trying to dig thru the confusion. So I should suggest we replace the IC vs. the pump? Could you possibly PM me? We are still waiting for the pump. It's 12 below zero now, Loretta isn't going anywhere. Certainly an easier proposition swapping ICs, I was hoping for a software fix, but nothing ever materialized. Below 30 degrees ambient, they are on all the time. Thanks to all in this thread - Zack | ||
| Zac4mac |
I just put in a call to Customer Support. Still confused at the proper prognosis. I will have my Service Dept contact Tech Svcs again and make sure we have the right fix. That's why I endured a slow dribble from my clutch until a proper fix was out. Thanks again all Zack | ||
| Chevycummins |
Zack, the last cluster I had put in my bike seems to have fixed the LFL illumination in cold temps. I never got the LFL and CEL at the same time though. Also just had the fuel pump replaced due to a no start but before that everything seemed ok after the last cluster. | ||
| Zac4mac |
I now understand the situation in depth. Changing the pump/sensor assy will address the SYMPTOM. Changing the Instrument Cluster will address the PROBLEM. Both Cust Svc and Tech Svc should be aware now. Make sure it's a SW 6.2(2008-2009) or 7.1(2010) Zack | ||
| Bobbuell1961 |
I have 3 new CRs at the dealership right now, 1 is prep'ed and test ridden in below 40 f that is not showing a CEL or LFL but going into dignostics i have p0628 and a b1005 codes. The second bike(my own),has only been started once, no lights but i am showing a p0628 code. The 3rd is yet to be prepped (yes it is sold) Anony or others, any input into this? Thanks,Bob | ||
| Dwiggs |
Excellent info. This problem has been driving me nuts since the temps have dropped. Thanks Anony! | ||
| Tibman260 |
Bob, it seems from reading through the posts your best bet is to replace the instrument clusters on the bikes so they are running the latest software. |
