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Archive through December 08, 2009Swamp230 12-08-09  03:14 pm
         

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Ccryder
Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 03:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Steve:

You one funny guy! Heck, 3/4 of the year would pass me by if I rode by your formula! You need to learn the warm fuzzy feeling of Gerbing heated gear. 8 or so years ago I discovered the warmth of heated gear and that is what allows me to be comfortable in sub-30 climates. If it's dry and above freezing I'll usually ride to work (70 miles).

Age has enlightened me to some of the "better" things in life.

Time2Work
Neil S.
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Froggy
Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 03:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Swamp, your not much further north than me, yet I haven't taken a car to work in months. Yesterday I got to work and parked my Blast next to someone's V-Rod. : )
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 05:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Personally, I don't see the allure of riding in cold weather. Traction is always an issue, thus aggressive riding isn't really possible. I would just assume be in a car. I feel the same about riding on the super-slab or in traffic.

The novelty of just being on a bike has long worn off.
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Froggy
Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 06:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fresno, not to be mean, but you don't know what you are talking about. Traction isn't an issue as long there is no ice. Yes, it takes longer for tires to warm up and reach maximum traction, but it still isn't an issue. I don't ride super aggressive during my commute, but the one part of my commute with twisties is still nice and fun even in the cold and/or wet.


I don't recall what my oil looked like during the 620 service on my CR, but the filter was in much better shape than the pictures above. I will probably be doing it on my 08R this weekend, so I will report back with my findings on that one.
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Swamp2
Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 08:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Swamp, your not much further north than me, yet I haven't taken a car to work in months. Yesterday I got to work and parked my Blast next to someone's V-Rod. : )

Well, I like to ride to work, but in addition to the cold, I don't like riding in the dark (deer paranoia) - and it's dark at 6:30am when I leave, and pretty much anytime I leave work to come home. Not to mention my company's inane policy that won't let you ride a cycle "on company time" - including travel between plants which I do frequently. So between the cold, the dark, and my old age - well, heck with it all.. I'm a wimp, I admit it. Cages do serve a purpose.

That said, I do keep my nicely "fairing-ed" '85 BMW K100RT in the garage ready to go for those rare events when the winter conditions are amenable to riding.

But since this thread is about oil changes, um... lessee - what do you think about synthetic oil vs dino?
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 10:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fresno, not to be mean, but you don't know what you are talking about.

So Froggy, you mean to tell me that you feel as comfortable riding fast on a cold winter day (no ice) as you do on a warm summer day? I would find it very hard to believe that you can put enough heat in the tires street riding (vs track) in the winter for maximum traction...not to mention the brakes....or the wet patches...or the cold shady spots...
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Froggy
Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 10:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

90% as comfortable. The heated liner makes it a little stiffer and harder to move. I definitely am warmer than I would be in the car!

I wish I had a tire temp probe that I could monitor while riding to see how they are doing. Regardless, I am yet to have a traction issue due to cold tires. I bit it twice on my Uly due to ice. Brakes I don't use much regardless of weather, as that just wastes gas.
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Chadhargis
Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 11:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't ride my track pace on the street, and a good set of tires will have enough grip on cold pavement to more than meet my demands on the street.
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Carbonbigfoot
Posted on Wednesday, December 09, 2009 - 12:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah, I really hate it when it gets cold here. I mean, it was in the 50's last week.

F***ing brutal.

<grin>

R
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Milleniumx1
Posted on Wednesday, December 09, 2009 - 08:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't feel as comfortable throwing one through the twisties when it's freezing temps outside. Even if I was 99% as confident, I wouldn't risk it for that last 1%. Okay, that's extreme ... I'm probably more like 60/40 when it's very cold. I can wait for warmer weather!
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Zac4mac
Posted on Wednesday, December 09, 2009 - 10:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When it's cold I ride... slow and smooth.

14 below zero now, not riding today...

Supposed to get above freezing in a few days -
Then I will RIDE again!

Corsa IIIs are nice and sticky when warm, but like steel rails when cold.

Z

edited to update the temp...

(Message edited by zac4mac on December 09, 2009)
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Zip88
Posted on Wednesday, December 09, 2009 - 10:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

is it too soon to change to full synthetic at at 200 miles?
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Dirty_john
Posted on Wednesday, December 09, 2009 - 01:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

its always cold and raining here in the UK - we have no choice really but to allow for the fact that it will probably rain at some time during a ride, especially living near North Wales - global warming isn't helping either, we haven't had a proper summer for years - thats why I hope to come over to the USA for a summer soon or at least get down to Spain
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Pwillikers
Posted on Saturday, December 12, 2009 - 07:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

2009 CR, build date Jan 09. First oil change (including filter).

I drained the oil and it looked normal. It didn't appear "silvery or milky" as some have reported. There was a metal slurry on the drain plug magnet which was easily cleaned off.

For refill, I carefully measured out 2.7 quarts and after adding the oil, I checked the level and the dipstick was dry. I incrementally added another .5 quarts, doing the hot oil checking method as I added. Now, with 3.2 quarts total, using the "method", the oil level is on the "full" line of the dipstick.

I rechecked the following day and it was very slightly low. I added another .1 qt bringing the total to 3.3 quarts. It's now spot on.

(Message edited by pwillikers on December 17, 2009)
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Pwillikers
Posted on Thursday, December 17, 2009 - 12:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

In spite of the various sources from Buell stating that the '09s have a 2.7 quart capacity, it's clear to me that my 2009 cr with a build date of Jan 09 has an oil capacity of 3.3 quarts.

At what build date did Buell increase the capacity from 2.7 to 3.3?
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Yugi
Posted on Thursday, December 17, 2009 - 01:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My December 2008 CR also has 3.3 quarts oil capacity like yours.
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Dirty_john
Posted on Thursday, December 17, 2009 - 02:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When I change the oil and filter on my 09 1125R it seems to need at least 3 quarts of SYN 3 to get the correct level on the lot engine check.
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Milleniumx1
Posted on Thursday, December 17, 2009 - 10:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My '09R is a Jan 09 build date. Putting exactly 3 quarts in it doesn't register on the dipstick, hot or cold check method. Add another 0.2 - 0.3, and you're nicely at the upper end of the window range.

Mike
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Pilotvtail
Posted on Thursday, December 17, 2009 - 05:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Same with my 09R. It takes about 3.2 to 3.3 quarts. Had me concerned until I read this thread.
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Hoove
Posted on Thursday, December 24, 2009 - 01:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for info on oil changes.

Even with warning about mess, I was still surprised. Good thing I put down lots of cardboard first.

2.7 qts.?? did not work for my 08 1125R. Seems info really varies depending where you look. Owners manual said 2.8 liters or about 3 qts. Still seems low. I will check again tomarrow. I believe I will find 3.2 or 3.3 correct capacity. And only 1/4 qt or 8 oz. between min & max...

Thanks again for heads up on oil change being messy job. (easier next time)

Brent
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Justa4banger
Posted on Thursday, December 24, 2009 - 07:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

MY Jun 08 build R to0k the full 3 qts to make it check out ok on the dipstick at operating temp...

I'm guessing the manual is just off a little.

I will say i did my first service at 750 miles (was waiting on the filter) and when i changed it the oil looked different from normal used oil. My filter though didn't look like the pic above... We'll see how the next oil change looks with the filter.
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