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Steve_a
Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 10:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There are two batteries available. The more interesting one uses lithium-ion cells to save 9 pounds (!) over the standard lead battery. It starts a 1125 easily. Early samples of it were run in the 1125RR at Mid-Ohio and New Jersey. It's not cheap (I'll let Erik announce his retail price) but it may be the least expensive way to save that much weight with a change that takes a few minutes to make.
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Steve_a
Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 10:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The complete racing tail package, including lightweight subframe, battery, undertray, and single-seat, foam-seat-pad bodywork saves roughly 17 pounds. Also, the lithium-ion battery went through a full shaker-test development cycle at Buell; it was intended to be a standard race accessory to be announced at the January 2010 dealer show.
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Froggy
Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 10:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Steve, is this the 1125RR tail or the "Barracuda spy photo" tail?
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Joebuell
Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 10:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

just wanted to add that I really like where this is going....
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Wkd14u2
Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 11:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

me to.... as noted above i hope this stuffs avaliable in the UK..
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Jdugger
Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 11:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I didn't realize the stock battery was 12lbs. I'm going to end up saving a lot more weight than I realized.

I do know this -- there is a significantly measurable difference in static sag using my light subframe + battery versus what the stock set up was. It's enough I may have to make a modest pre-load adjustment!
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Steve_a
Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 12:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That's the 1125RR tail; the one from the bike that cannot be named would have been lighter yet.
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Wkd14u2
Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 01:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

do you guys think that now EBR is up and running that parts from the bike that can’t be named will become available, or does that design/parts belong purely to HD?

that tail would be sweet.......
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Reepicheep
Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 01:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

That's the 1125RR tail; the one from the bike that cannot be named would have been lighter yet.




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Froggy
Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 01:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Steve, thank you. : )

That would be awesome if we could get our hands on the unnamed bike parts, I would love to slap the full fairing setup on my 1125Uly, and the tail section on my lobster 1125CR.
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Carbonbigfoot
Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 01:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wow.

We've got a bike that cannot be named, a Tune that cannot be named, I'm going to change my username to "Posterwhocannotbenamed"

HA!

R
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Jdugger
Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 02:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anonymous!
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Sl33py
Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 02:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Harley would be a good Voldemort - the crap company who cannot be named...

Was the tail of the yellow 'cuda (correct code name right?) that much different than ours? Just inquiring - i'm sure everyone has seen the same pics and that's about the extent of the knowledge. Unless Anony wants to post up more info!!!
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Anonymous
Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 03:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Was the tail of the yellow 'cuda (correct code name right?) that much different than ours?

Totally different. The mounting points are the same.
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99buellx1
Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 04:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

Totally different. The mounting points are the same.




Oh, sweet!
Please, please release it!
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Sl33py
Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 05:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

found the pic again... wow - that would be awesome!!

Can't wait to see this on a 25R! Thanks Anony!
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Wkd14u2
Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 05:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i sooooooooooooooooooo hope that section is for sale real soon.

come on EBR make my xmas.......

Wkd1
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Mrbikle
Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 05:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yea really, I have cash in had for that tail!
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2008xb12scg
Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 06:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This is going to be expensive. The tv, fridge and bed that the better half wants are going down my priority list...
He said XB race parts...
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Elvis
Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 08:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Talk about centralized mass, that tail section looks like it weighs next tonothing. Damn shame.

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186bigtwin
Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 09:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Does anyone know for sure how they got the extra 65cc's? Slight bore and stroker crank or stroke only?
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Smoothrod
Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 09:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Im guessing stroke only, maybe 1/8????
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Cafefun
Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 10:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just incase someone cares, speedcell already makes a light weight battery that has no trouble starting Busa's and ZX 14's. it's around 250 so I will weight and see what EBR battery price is and decide which one to get.
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D_adams
Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 10:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Stock bore/stroke is 103 mm/67.5 mm
Increase by bore by 3 mm gets you 1191 cc displacement. I would guess bore only, with either larger cylinders or bore it out. Not sure if it's a coated cylinder or not, haven't actually looked at one yet.

Just for reference, longer stroke would take 4 mm to equal the displacement, so stroke would be at 71.5 mm with a 103 mm bore. Much easier to do bore than stroke. Swap out pistons and cylinders, no changes to the head/cam chain/cam, etc. Just need oversize gaskets.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 11:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So will a stock 1125 seat fit the yellow tail? I'm a tall guy, I love the fact it has a 'ramp' instead of a 'wall' behind the driver...and I can't tell in the pic - is that a pillion? Or a black painted piece meant to look like a pillion?

Make mine solo, in black please : )
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Blackflash
Posted on Friday, December 04, 2009 - 09:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I though the rr had cams and a airbox mod.So just buying the 1190 kit would put you at roughly 155 hp with stock stuff I would guess. 146 divided by 1125 =.1297 hp per cc x 1190= 155.I think that would be close.
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186bigtwin
Posted on Friday, December 04, 2009 - 09:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It must have some max effort head work, Buell is claiming 185 RWHP. That's a pretty hard claim, He ( Eric ) would have to back it up with hard numbers or loose all respect in the consumer ( privateer ) racing world.
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Badlionsfan
Posted on Friday, December 04, 2009 - 09:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

All that body work, fairing, tail etc in yellow for the bike in the pic would look sweet with the blue frame on my 08 r.
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Rfischer
Posted on Friday, December 04, 2009 - 11:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"...hard claim"

Not really; the full-on Ducati 1198RR's make that. No reason a similar displacement Buell can't as well. As with the Ducati, it will be at the outer limits of its capability however.

For a further reference, when we [Highland Grp.] developed our new 450 race motor we got 69 WHP out of it, similar specific power output per measure of displacement; the design architecture of that motor is very much like the Buell 1125, simply in a single cyl. rather than twin cyl. configuration.
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Friday, December 04, 2009 - 12:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Short of creating a new thread, I'll post here. I think it generally goes with the direction of this thread.

For sale: New Buell Racing Battery Pan.

See more in Classifieds.

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/21/ 519345.html?1259947482
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