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A_s_r
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 11:45 pm: | 
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quote:Do you want/need the current DHM axle slider to be longer than it is?
Perhaps. I think it needs to be long enough to protrude past the short spool, including some sacrificial material length that would get ground off in a slide. |
1324
| | Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 06:42 am: |
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My vote is for short spool and a longer axle slider as well.
Short spool in work. Do you want/need the current DHM axle slider to be longer than it is?
Keith
Keith,
Good question. I'll be in touch with another email today when I sort some things out.
Nick |
Skully
| | Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 09:38 pm: |
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The current line of DHM Composite Sliders for the 1125 series protrude beyond the swing arm approximately 1 1/2". The compact lift spool that we have designed protrudes less than an inch.
The 1125 EcoSlider will protrude approximately 1 3/16" beyond the swing arm. I believe there may be a fine line between how long the Delrin EcoSLider can be cantilevered before it simply fails but I don't know what it is. Thoughts?
Keith |
P_squared
| | Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 09:59 pm: |
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Thoughts?
I'm thinkin I'll test fit (and long term evaluation of course) whatever you come up with, free of charge, no shipping required (I'll come pick 'em up). How's that sound?
For the Delrin Eco, would it be practical to increase the length of the base by ~1/4", thereby pushing the face of the overall slider out to ~1 7/16" ? I'm thinking you'll want ~1/2" + difference between the spool & slider in the finished dimensions. |
Avc8130
| | Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 10:14 pm: |
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Does the Eco model have an aluminum base, or is it solely delrin?
ac |
Skully
| | Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 10:39 pm: |
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Hey Phil - LOL When are we doing another track day? Increasing the length of the slider by 1/4" may be OK.
Anthony - The EcoSLiders are solely Delrin in order to keep costs to a minimum.
Keith |
Rkc00
| | Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 10:48 pm: |
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Keith,
When you make the rear ecosliders longer I will take a set front and rear.
Mike
09 1125CR Black/White |
Johnnys999
| | Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 10:59 pm: |
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I low sided my 916 at about 35 to 40 mph at the race track, fortunately I installed Cycle Cat Sliders previously. The sliding and spinning wore the slider down by approx 1/2. It did its job wonderfully. I believe a frame slider should be made of material other than metal. There should be some slowing resistance built into the slider, not having any friction will not help slow the bike down. In another crash I lost the front end of my 600RR at over 80mph in the twisties. The result was a slide to the edge of the roadway whereupon the slider apparently dug into a berm of asphalt. The bike then flipped and catapulted at least 50' and slammed into a dirt and rock wall. The dirt and rock wall was located on the other side of a swale that was over 10' deep. Needless to say the bike was demolished and the frame slider broke off its mounting like a broken toothpick. It was useless when up against that kind of destructive energy.
My point is in the first case a frame slider set up does protect your bike. In the second crash I don't care what kind of a slider you have on, they will not help you. Also, there are other variables like pot holes in the path of the slider and the above mentioned roadside berm that interfere with any product strength test computation. I know smart people can factor those things in and likely come up with a reasonable outcome, but lets face it when you crash at that speed on the street, only luck can save your bacon.
We all know this stuff and I subscribe to the notion frame sliders are generally good upgrades to have on your bike. However, you won't catch me boring a hole through my carbon fiber fairings on my 999R, but under fairing sliders are a reasonable option. They protect key and expensive parts on your bike. |
P_squared
| | Posted on Friday, December 04, 2009 - 01:22 am: |
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Keith - No more trackdays this year for me (especially with snow!), but RideSmart is talking about a 2 day at Barber next year (August timeframe I think) that sounds pretty good.
Outside of that, have to wait for next year's calendar of dates/tracks available & plan accordingly (or REALLY suck up to Jdugger so he'll let me tag along during his member days).  |
1324
| | Posted on Friday, December 04, 2009 - 06:45 am: |
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Keith,
I didn't see this post before I went to bed last night. I'll take some measurements based on what discussed yesterday. Having a longer EcoSlider would be ideal... |
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