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Hogluvr
Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 07:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've been going through some old posts looking for a stand for my '08 1125r, the concensus seems to be that a swingarm stand is the way to go, most notably the Pit Bull stand designed specifically for the '08 without the spools. My question is, other than a rear wheel R&R, how would you be able to do things like removing the rear shock with the suspension loaded? This is the reason I bought a Centerstand to use on my S1 when I had it...
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Barker
Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 08:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

hang it from the rafters of you shop. DAMHIK.
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Hogluvr
Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 08:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No room, that's what I did with my ex-wife
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Nickg
Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 08:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

t rex makes an adjustable stand for the rear that will work with the spools
on ebay cheap, had a set for my 1000ss and they were VERY nice quality
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Geforce
Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 08:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just bought the T-Rex front and rear stands... love 'em.
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4cammer
Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 10:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Use what they used on the 1125RR....made in the USA Pit Bull stands.

Little more $$, keeps a job in the US.
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Geforce
Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 11:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

T-Rex is made in Texas. : ) Either way is a win.
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4cammer
Posted on Wednesday, November 11, 2009 - 11:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No, T-Rex is made in Taiwan.

Just ask them.

This BS comes up all the time....
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Barker
Posted on Wednesday, November 11, 2009 - 11:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

IIRC

Pit bull made a spool stand for the 09 1125R &CR/Vmax. PN F0083A-000

Not to be confused with the non-spool "swivel support" 08 1125R stand. That works great on the 09 Lokis and Uly too. PN F0078-000

American Sport Bike should be able to get you either one.
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Gotlime
Posted on Wednesday, November 11, 2009 - 11:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

4cammer,

2x as much is a little more?

I got the T-rex stands. I guess I'm a bad American.
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Hogluvr
Posted on Wednesday, November 11, 2009 - 11:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Unless I am mistaken, the T-rex stands require spools, which I don't have, mine is a '08. And being out of work myself, I'm all about someone here keeping their job...
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Gotlime
Posted on Wednesday, November 11, 2009 - 12:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This is a topic for another thread, but I'm not paying twice as much to support an "American" business. Tom, at T-rex, is American and was very helpful during the purchase of my stands. I'm glad I helped him keep his job. And the guy who called to verify my order, though I forgot his name...........
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Xnoahx
Posted on Wednesday, November 11, 2009 - 01:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

To support the bike with the rear suspention unloaded try using a set of jackstands under the foot pegs.
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Hogluvr
Posted on Wednesday, November 11, 2009 - 01:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

quote: "To support the bike with the rear suspention unloaded try using a set of jackstands under the foot pegs."

Thank you! That was the info I was looking for!!
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Hogluvr
Posted on Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 02:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

OK, part 2: What do you guys use for a front stand? What works best on this beast??
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D_adams
Posted on Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 02:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pitbull new front stand, pin size was .700", I made my own pin on a lathe. I think the standard pin is .750" or something like that.
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Xnoahx
Posted on Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 02:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Front stands are pretty generic. I never had one so I have always used tie straps hanging from my rafters to the bars. Not the best way to go so a set of t-rex front and rear stands are in my future. The price is right on those babies
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Hogluvr
Posted on Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 02:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The pit bull stands are pricey, already looking at the rear for lack of something cheaper, was hoping a generic stand would work on the front...
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Sl33py
Posted on Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 02:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

for both the front and back T-Rex stands - the money saved could buy a DHM slider/spool which will also protect your swingarm if you go down!
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Hogluvr
Posted on Sunday, November 15, 2009 - 12:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I really don't want to drill holes in my brand new swingarm so it looks like I'm going with the Pit Bull on the rear. It looks like there are several types of front stands on the market, some have the pins that go into the forks underneath, another type has rollers that hit the corners of the bottom forks similar to the way the Pit Bull lifts the rear swingarm on the '08. Anyone have any yeas/nays on any of these types?
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Xnoahx
Posted on Sunday, November 15, 2009 - 01:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would go for the front stand that lifts from the steering stem. That way you have an unloaded suspension if you ever want to remove your forks. You can do that with the type that supports the bike by the forks.
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Fmaxwell
Posted on Sunday, November 15, 2009 - 07:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

@Xnoahx: I have a T-rex that lifts with a pin inside the steering stem and it scares the living hell out of me. The amount of leverage that's trying to distort the steering stem is scary. Just figure that you have about 2" going into the steering stem and that's at the end of an 18" pivot (roughly speaking). It sounded like a good idea at first, but after pulling out the pin, I discovered that the steel pin was actually deformed at the top rear edge from the force.
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Hogluvr
Posted on Sunday, November 15, 2009 - 10:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

OK, after looking at a crapload of front stands, I'm actually leaning toward the T-Rex stand that cradles the front forks similar to the rear stand by Pit Bull. Anyone use one of these stands? Would appreciate some honest feedback...
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Torquaholic
Posted on Sunday, November 15, 2009 - 10:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When looking for a good priced set of stands, I decided to go with the pair made by GPI Industries. One piece, thick steel, high quality, great price when you buy the factory blemished on sale. Lee, the owner, is top notch and always responds to emails. Don't just take my word for it, google GPI Industries stands and see what others are saying about them.

I believe they had both spool and non-spool style adapters for the rear available. Fork stands lift under the fork, not in the steering stem. Check them out.
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Hogluvr
Posted on Sunday, November 15, 2009 - 10:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Those GPI stands are nice looking, but I don't see how they would work with the '08 non-spooled swingarm??
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Geforce
Posted on Sunday, November 15, 2009 - 11:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hog, you can install spools easily. Call Keith!

What I did was buy sliders/spools from Keith at DHM. I bought the T-Rex stands and that one set fits both the 1125r and the Scg perfectly...

Note on the T-Rex front stand. The fork adapter does work... but we have uneven forks so you will have to shim the right side with a piece of rubber or turn the wheel slightly to make up for the uneven fork length.

YOU CAN get it on the stand without anything else, but I didn't like it. So I ordered the triple tree adapter it works great. I insert the pin into the steering stem and then place the lower part on the floor and lift. No issues. If you try to wheel it up there and bring it into the stem it's a bit harder. Also, make sure you place a thick soft cloth or rag between the triple tree adapter and the fender so you don't get any contact and leave a blemish. After it is lifted there is plenty of clearance.

(Message edited by Geforce on November 15, 2009)
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Torquaholic
Posted on Sunday, November 15, 2009 - 11:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The rear spool attachment would not on a factory '08; you are correct. I have a pair of D_adams spools, required drilling the swingarm. Any spool stand would need a bit of alteration to work with the custom setup, since the spools are not in the traditional spool location.

However, I just double-checked, and the GPI stands' item description does state, "Included are both spool style and universal swingarm attachments." the universal attachments are the standard rubberized cup that fits under the swingarm. Not the greatest option for the 1125 because of the steep angle on the swingarm.

If you really don't want to drill the swingarm, the pit bull rear made for the '08 is probably your best bet, I have seen it in action at the track and it seemed to work... tricky to get up, but it worked.

I was just throwing it out there, give my positive review of these stands and help make more people aware that there's another good alternative to the T-rex/Pit bull standard answers.
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Hogluvr
Posted on Sunday, November 15, 2009 - 11:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Torquaholic,

I will give GPI credit. I sent them an email and Lee just responded back, on a Sunday night!! I am definitely impressed with that!

Geforce,

I didn't realize these bikes had uneven front forks, I will have to check that out...
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Geforce
Posted on Sunday, November 15, 2009 - 11:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No problem man. I didn't either until I had a small gap on the right side and thought I was going crazy. I can say I like the triple tree adapter better.
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Torquaholic
Posted on Sunday, November 15, 2009 - 11:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hogluvr,

Give me a few days and I'll try to get some pics of the bike on stands for you. The weather is funky right now and I might not have any time till later on this week. I live in an apartment and the bike is at a local storage unit, so I can't just walk outside.

FYI: I received an email from Lee before I ordered the stands. His reply listed the dimensions as:

1) Max width using spool style attachments is 15.25 inches
2) Min recommended width using spool style attachments is 12.75 inches
3) The bottom of the spool attachment when in the stand from ground up: 12.75 inches

These might work fine on an '09 setup, but like I said, some engineering is needed for the D_Adams spools. Dean even had to spread his pitbull stand 1-2" with a floor jack to make it wide enough, as well as insert some washers under the spool attachments to make it all work.

The upside to going this route is, once the hard work is done, you can lift the bike on spools and still remove the rear wheel. Can't do that with some of the through-the-axle slider/spool types available.
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