| Author | Message | ||
     Slowride |
I have a co-worker who picked up a 1125cr in Black and rode it home from the dealer to his house on Tuesday. He noticed a small leak under his CR the next day. Today he rode it in and called me when he hit the office, a little concerned he might have a problem. Upon my arrival in the parking lot there were signs of an issue. His cr was covered in oil on the right and left side of his exhaust and dripping down on his belt tensioner and his rear wheel. I got in real tight on the engine and could see where the oil appeared to be coming from. It looks as though the engine is built kind of like this... Valve cover Head middle jug lower jug case If this is infact how it is assembled then the oil is coming from in between the middle and lower jug on the rear piston. There is a seamed section just under the rear of the exhaust outlet. This is where a major portion of the oil looks to be coming from. Anyone have this issue before? The dealer dispatched a truck to come get the bike and it is safely in their care now. Btw, this was the parking lot at work today. The bike I was just discussing is the Black 1125cr in the rear.  | ||
| Freezerburn840 |
Wow that sucks hopefully they detect the issue. I have 3300 problem free miles so far knock on wood. | ||
| Carbonbigfoot |
Haven't seen that one before, thank goodness. Odd. R | ||
| Froggy |
Thats a new one. Perhaps a bad gasket? | ||
| Slowride |
The dealer called my friend and said it looks like it is the head gasket on the rear piston. Interesting, the bike has less than 40 miles. I guess this would be a bad mate up from the factory or a wrong torque spec... | ||
| Froggy |
Good to hear they figured it out no problem. Sucks to happen on a new bike. The motor was probably built on a Friday. | ||
| Zac4mac |
If the valve cover isn't tight, the pressure will blow the gasket out. Happened to me when I did my 12k service and had a cam replaced. I forgot to tighten the rear valve cover after I got her home, about 10 miles later, she was spewing like you describe. Pull the seat off, loosen all 5(I think) bolts, wiggle the cover, check the gasket is straight, tap into place and re-tighten. The cover gasket is very thick silicone rubber, should last thru several valve inspections. Zack | ||
| Ccryder |
What about grossly over filled with oil? That would cause oil to come out almost everywhere! We have never (oh no) seen 1125's too full! | ||
| Anonymous |
Never heard of this before on any of these. Grossly overfilled with oil is a real likely scenario. There is a very specific procedure for oil level (it went to a sight glasss in 2010, but not many of them were made), and the usual result for not following it is way too much oil in the engine, which causes it to come out of ugly places. | ||
| Slowride |
I can vouch for the owner, the bike was purchased and then driven straight to the house for a total of 20 miles, when he noticed the oil drips on his garage. So I would have to assume this was a dealer screw up, right? | ||
| Ccryder |
Yep, the dealer could have done it. Bottom line when it's cold and the bike is upright and level, there should be oil just touching the bottom of the dip stick. The hot procedure: engine should be run for 10-15 mins. Let it drain for 2-3 mins and then check the level with the bike vertical. The oil level s/b b/t max and min. Later. | ||
| Velocity |
Yea but It seems it can vary from bike to bike. On the oil level deal. Mine, the first oil change I drained both plugs and at the screen let it drip over night. Next day no oil left. I have put in 3 full quarts and have never seen it on the stick no matter what tricks or procedures I use. So if you drain at the screen should you put more in? Have yet to get an answer, no one seems to know. I have not called CS. I do recall someone on here said they went with 3.25 quarts. Scott | ||
| Chadhargis |
I agree with the oil overfill. I typically check the oil cold before I ride, and if there is any oil on the stick at all....it's good. Go ride. I don't try to keep it right at the "max" line. | ||
| Stevering |
2009 1125 CR - I have the same oil leak problem. 112 miles on the bike, noticed oil dripping down the kick stand after riding yesterday. Found oil on belt, belt guard, rear fender, rear engine case, inside surface of muffler. Most seems to be on the left side of the engine, nothing got onto rear disc. Engine oil dipstick is registering nearly at max. Calling dealer tomorrow. Guess, I'll ride my 2002 Bandit to work. | ||
| Cheddarheads4erik |
Also, pull to check that the oil filter is in the correct position. | ||
| Bhillberg |
I currently have the same issue. Picked my 09 CR up on Saturday, it currently has just under a 100 miles on it and oil all over near the rear cylinder. I am 35 miles from home and hoping it makes it. This may sound dumb but which dipstick are you talking about when checking the cold level? Nevermind, I looked up the location in the manual posted at the top of the forum page... stinking dealer didn't give me one of those either! (Message edited by bhillberg on October 26, 2009) | ||
| Stevering |
Got my 1125CR to the dealer today. I asked if my VIN was one that required the recall repair from October 2008. The answer was, "There are no outstanding recall notices on your bike." - not exactly the answer to my question. They inspected the rear cylinder head gasket and it had been pinched incorrectly. They said the gasket would be in by Friday, since they ordered it last week. Interesting, I didn't call them until Monday. My supposition is, my bike had the 2008 recall repair for the nylon chain guide and the tech messed up the gasket on the re-install. I rode the bike around the dealership on 10/18. Dollars to doughnuts it leaked after parking it at the dealership until I could pick it up Monday, 10/19, and THEN the dealership ordered the gasket. | ||
| Bhillberg |
interesting, where can I find out if my bike should have the recall done? | ||
| Stevering |
Bhillberg, Unfortunately, the NTHSA recall 08V554000 does not reference the VIN's affected. According to the kneeslider forum, the bikes mfg prior to 9/17/08 were affected but, this is not official. I had to rely on my dealer and they did not answer my question directly. I've searched the 'net pretty extensively and have not found VIN info related to the recall. | ||
| Slowride |
Well, I just got a text from the owner of this CR, he stated that he went to HD to pick up the bike and when he did the test ride it was leaking oil in the same spot. HD Tech said is must be a badly machined jug or head. He is stating it came from the factory in this condition. What say you anonymous? | ||
| Zac4mac |
If you can't get cooperation from your dealer, PM me your VIN and I'll run it on HDnet and e-mail you a screen cap. If you don't know, I work "Parts" at High Country H-D/Buell, a sponsor. Pretty simple really. Zack | ||
| Bwbueller |
Ok.. I'm the dude with the problem child CR. :-) The HD shop said they have a new head on order due in this Thurs.. I'm totally new to the Buell world coming from the Yamaha land.. gunna try to jump on board with all you hard core Buellers. Unfortunately still twittling my thumbs!! The 25 miles I have on the books so far was promising tho. : ) | ||
| Jdugger |
bw, I think I saw your bike in Service the other day... they had it torn down to just the motor and swing arm -- even the frame/tank was off! | ||
| Iamarchangel |
VIN and warranty: used to be able to do this, who knows now. Buell.com > Owners > register >Profile > enter VIN > warranty history comes up. You might have register at Buell and go to the HD site. Cookies will log you in or use the Buell info and check there. | ||
| Bwbueller |
I'll check that out at Buell.com.. Good info. Thanks! I heard that you guys saw my bike up there.. I'm actually glad I did not see that.. just the thought is traumatizing enough. :-) On one hand I always like to see things taken apart.. but on the other hand.. this is my brand new less than 50 miles bike!!! uhg.. | ||
| Milleniumx1 |
I did that registration thing just now ... If the Warranty/Service history is there, I sure can't find it. Wouldn't be the first time! I probably wouldn't want to see my bike all torn apart either, but knowing it was Warranty would make me feel better than $$$ out of pocket. Mike | ||
| Bwbueller |
Turns out Buell sent the wrong part.. (incomplete head) as I was told.. :-/ My gut feeling is that the service folks up at HD in garland are genuine... The sales folks could not care less.. No loaner.. no what can we do for you.. no nuthin.. Just "hey you got a good deal"..and "You should we happy we sold lots of good ones!? This is the only one with the problem" ha.. At this point.. I'd do a refund.. | ||
| Bwbueller |
HD Garland may have another 2009 Black CR soon.. I'm tired of this.. I'm headed there with my papers.. if they won't cancel the deal.. I'm gunna take my 170 vacation hours and sit at their front door and tell everyone to go somewhere else for their own good. : ) They test ride these bikes don't they??? It had 8 miles on it when I picked it up.. Would that be the factory dyno 8 miles? I feel like they should have seen this before they ever gave it to me. I should never have been given this one.. | ||
| Bwbueller |
I finally got to talk to my original salesman.. He at least sympathized... which was nice.. all the managers thought it was crazy that I did not just expect this!? He calmed me down and they are overnighting another head that should be here in the morning.. They said they could have it ready by tomorrow possibly.. Monday at the latest.. I hope like heck I have a smile as big as all you guys do very soon.. | ||
| Slowride |
I talked with one of the service techs at another dealership. He stated that it was possible that if they did any recall updates on the cam tensioner that the tech could have messed up the head and caused it to leak. I obviously can't substantiate any of this, but I find it hard to believe that if a bike came from the factory with a badly machined head as was stated by Bwbuellers dealer and it was dripping oil from the get go, that BMC wouldn't have caught it on the Dyno run up or while it was waiting to be crated. Anyone? Anyone? BUeller? |
