| Author | Message | ||
     Sofauxboho |
Dealer invoice cost on an 1125r is $10,300. The current incentive is $5000 from Harley. As such, if you pay over $5,300 plus tax and fees, they are making a profit. If you manage to get them below that, they are taking a loss. This information is per Clarkjw and confirmed by Rkc00 in this thread: http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/290 431/508368.html?1256682219 It would be reasonable to assume that the CR is a few hundred less, as it's MSRP is $500 lower, but I haven't seen an actual figure. I'm reposting this information with a relevant subject because I looked all over for it before I bought my R and was having a hard time tracking it down. Wish this forum had stickies! | ||
| Milleniumx1 |
Mine was done as an OTD, with the final price we agreed on being the only one showing on the paperwork. But just out of curiosity, what do average fees/set-up/shipping run? In other words, excluding Title and Tax which varies by state, what's the normal going rate for the 'fees/charges' at the dealership on an 1125? Mike | ||
| Clarkjw |
295 is the standard setup. But let's not squeeze dealers too much guys. They pay interest on the bikes, along with overhead and mechanic prep time. If a dealer is giving you anything around 6k OTD, jump on it. However, the 2008 have so many gremilins, I think you'll need a 1k discount to make it worth your time. Injectors and a tune are 600 by themselves. Add the clutch cover downtime and •••••• stators and you in for a treat. (Message edited by clarkjw on October 27, 2009) | ||
| Vosnick52 |
I paid 5568 OTD for a red 09'1125CR | ||
| Milleniumx1 |
I wasn't interested in squeezing my dealer, especially since he's my neighbor and I think businesses have a right to make an honest profit. I've heard different numbers for set-up (in the $200-300 range), and seen some charged separately for shipping, in the range of $250 if memory serves me correctly. I too could have saved about a grand going with an '08, but opted for a new '09 fresh out the box. I got a great deal - Very happy! | ||
| Xnoahx |
OTD doesnt mean dick unless you talk about how much you paid in tax. 5568 OTD would be amazing in CA where you pay at least 8.25% tax. Include those numbers so people can have a reasonable expectation of what they can get one for while they last | ||
| Caryder |
Interesting to read what people are posting as "common" setup fees. Chandler HD, 7.8% tax on the $6,999 base price + $670 for prep + $650 for shipping + $620 for documentation, and another couple hundred for some other BS fee. Almost $9700 OTD for an 08 1125R model. I walked. | ||
| Jonesz0003 |
I just bought my White 09 1125R from chandler and i think after everything OTD was about $10,300 | ||
| Milleniumx1 |
Xnoah, the reason I was looking for OTD with prep/fees/etc but exclusive of tax is because tax is variable by state. I lived in CA for 13 years, so I know what a fleecing that is! In Missouri, I actually paid ZERO tax since I had sold a car within the past 180 days with a value greater than the '09R. Since my under $7K OTD was negotiated and shown as one price, it was just a curiosity what the individual items could have broken out to ... Shipping = X, Set-Up = Y, Doc Fees = Z. | ||
| Cafefun |
You just paid 10,300 for an 1125r? wow they made a killing on that bike with the 5000.000 rebate! | ||
| Westmoorenerd |
i just payed $9600 for my 1125CR....but that was with shipping to Guam, Guam taxes, 5yr warranty, and tire/wheel service. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
My guess is that many dealers have added costs built added to the hard dollars to arrive at the dealer's "true" cost. Not knowing the inner-workings, I would think that the length of time the bike has been on the floor and/or the money tied up in a particular bike has an associated cost to a dealer. I am sure there are other things as well. | ||
| Trevharding |
paid $6999 taxes in for an '08 R - CAN $$ | ||
| Fresnobuell |
Do we have to turn this into another thread of what everyone paid for their new 1125? Check the thread title, please. I know everyone is giddy about their great deal, but give it a rest and find the appropriate thread. | ||
| Cafefun |
Guess to me from reading the first post it kinda is about what everyone is paying if the dealer is getting a 5000.00 rebate but asking more the 5300 he is making money of course the dealer should make some so I say if you pay 6300 plus taxes that is a good deal. these expensive set up charges are BS. I put new suzuki ans kawasakis together for 5 yrs part time and from getting them out of the crate to ready to run excluding battery is about an hour. so anything over 100.00 dollar set up is making major money for the dealer as well. so right now if they are getting 10,300 otd for a bike plus there 5000.00 rebate they are making major money | ||
| Sofauxboho |
I'd intended this thread to give new shoppers the information they need to negotiate a price that's fair to both them and their dealer. That said, since there seems to be no way to make posts sticky in this forum, folks are free to post whatever they want. If nothing else, it'll keep bumping the post to the top where newbies can see it. | ||
| Drewpy |
i paid 6083 before tax, which i have to pay when I goto OH to tag it | ||
| Barker |
I think its still a good buy @ MSRP, but we had a recent price war. | ||
| Blastofrage |
my only dealer on town was $8000 on my new 1125R my total was $8400 with fees and gap ins with my credit union | ||
| Swordsman |
"$620 for documentation"  Yeah, I'd given them a  just for that alone! ~SM | ||
| Carbonbigfoot |
But, but, you wouldn't ride around on an un-documented motorcycle would you??? R | ||
| Cafefun |
All dealers in my state charge 100 to 120 doc fee. If they told me 620 I would not have bought from them. | ||
| Zracer196 |
WOW...Glad I got mine early! Paid $6200 OTD with tax, etc. from Seminole HD...It's an 08' (wanted the blue frame). My buddy just paid a bit over $7K for an 09' with the side fairings. We bought "R" models. | ||
| Mrbuell |
I paid 5660.00 otd. 500.00 to have it shipped. no complaints here | ||
| Mndwgz |
I just had an afternoon of fun with a har-harley sales guy. They still want 8k otd for an 1125R. "Gotta keep the lights on, free coke, hell of a deal, it has the lowers, don't you like the '08 better?" I gave him an offer of: the invoice price - 5k + 1290 set up + tax. "I'll get the boss... Gotta keep the lights on, free coke, hell of a deal @ 8k, it has the lowers, don't you like the '08 better?" I figure they can throw some of the "$1290 set up fee" into profit. They have 14 Buells in inventory, they've sold 3 since the 15th he told me. What's with these guys? I did go to parts and get a clutch lever. | ||
| Chellem |
Does that invoice price include frieght? And for what year is that? That doesn't exactly match what I come up with. Seems a little light. Because, just in case no one knew, freight isn't something Dealers make up - that's something we get charged. And the bikes do come in a box, and we timed it a few times - varies by model - but by the time you uncrate it, PDI it, check it over, make sure everything is tight and the appropriate oils are in there, and put the test ride miles on it (which around here takes FOREVER with traffic) and then all cleaned up nice and purty, it comes to between 3 - 3 1/2 hours. Like I said, different for different bikes, depending on how many peices come with it. $620 for doc fees sounds a bit out there, but a dealer really has no control over taxes, DMV fees, etc. Just wanted to throw that out there. Freight and prep are NOT made up things. They are real costs associated with getting the bike to the store, and then onto the floor. | ||
| Sofauxboho |
Chellem makes some good points. Just one more reason I only negotiate on out the door price. It's just simpler. I'm really not concerned with how much the freight costs, how much the setup costs, or how much the DMV fees cost any more than I'm concerned with how much the frame cost, how much the wheels cost, and how much the fuel injection system cost. I'm concerned with how much I'm paying before I can leave with my new motorcycle. The dealer is welcome to divide that money up however they like. | ||
| Doctorneon |
If by documentation you mean the dealer charging a fee to sell the item to you, never pay it, that started in the auto market and is just one more way to gig the customer. | ||
| Buzzie |
I bought mine today!!!!!!!!!!!!! had to get the white...... Anyone seen any lowering set up for it.? haven't had time to look myself. I would like to lower it some so my lady can ride it from time to time. not just lowering it by sliding down the triples | ||
| Fmaxwell |
Doctorneon: "If by documentation you mean the dealer charging a fee to sell the item to you, never pay it, that started in the auto market and is just one more way to gig the customer." And that's a fine stand to take if you're negotiating the purchase of a Ford Expedition when gas prices are $4/gallon during a recession. But when you're trying to buy one of the last Buells available at a fraction of the list price, that stand on principle might mean that you will be walking, rather than riding, out of the dealership. |
