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Barker
Posted on Monday, October 19, 2009 - 06:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

SYN? Dino?
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Eweaver
Posted on Monday, October 19, 2009 - 06:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

dino
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Hughlysses
Posted on Monday, October 19, 2009 - 06:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The owner's manual says use Syn3 if available, dino if not.
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Badlionsfan
Posted on Monday, October 19, 2009 - 06:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

syn3
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Chessm
Posted on Monday, October 19, 2009 - 07:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

snake

Lol
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Zac4mac
Posted on Monday, October 19, 2009 - 07:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

All HD/B bikes leave the factory with dino except Screaming Eagle/CVO bikes - they get Syn3.

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Hughlysses
Posted on Monday, October 19, 2009 - 07:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Whatever's in it, they say add Syn3 if you have to add. From the on-line owner's manual:


owner's manual
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Barker
Posted on Monday, October 19, 2009 - 08:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

IMHO syn is not so good for a new engine. too slippery.
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Monday, October 19, 2009 - 08:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Goto Amsoil after 600 miles and call it good.
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Dmhines
Posted on Monday, October 19, 2009 - 08:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When service rep gave me tour of bike he told me it had Syn3 in it not Dino.
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Xl1200r
Posted on Monday, October 19, 2009 - 08:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Glad we cleared that up, lol.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Monday, October 19, 2009 - 08:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I searched and found several old threads on the issue. There were a lot of conflicting posts about what's actually in these engines from the factory.

Normally I'd agree with Barker, but this is a WHOLE different engine from our air-cooled lumps. Some pretty note-worthy high performance engines like Corvettes come from the factory with synthetic fill.

I only have ~160 miles to go to the first change. I'm gonna take the safe route, follow the owner's manual, and use Syn3.
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Chessm
Posted on Monday, October 19, 2009 - 08:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

someone needs to go in and do a taste test
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Hellgate
Posted on Monday, October 19, 2009 - 09:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I like olive oil!
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Monday, October 19, 2009 - 09:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When service rep gave me tour of bike he told me it had Syn3 in it not Dino.

Service rep...meaning at the dealership? Uh, there is an excellent chance he was pulling that tidbit of info out of his ass.

It's real easy guys. Break the bike in with the oil from the factory (whatever it may be.) and change to a full synthetic (which Syn 3 is not) at 500-600 miles.
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Xnoahx
Posted on Tuesday, October 20, 2009 - 12:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Syn 3 isnt full synthetic? Someone better tell Harley

Screamin' Eagle® SYN3® Full Synthetic Motorcycle Lubricant - SAE 20W50

TESTED-CERTIFIED for use in Harley-Davidson® engine, primary chaincase and transmission applications, the new Screamin' Eagle® Full SYN3® Synthetic Lubricant makes changing and topping-off fluids a simple, one-product process. Developed with a proprietary three synthetic basestock formula, Screamin' Eagle® SYN3® Lubricant is formulated to provide for long-term protection and engine cleanliness requirements and to provide superior high-temperature protection for high-output engines. SYN3® is formulated to maintain the coefficient of friction for proper clutch operation and to provide the proper lubrication to the primary chain drive. In addition, SYN3® is designed to provide the correct lubricity for the anti-wear requirements of transmission gears and for improved seal protection. This formula is approved by Harley-Davidson® for use in all stages of engine life and is not detrimental to the break-in stage of engines.
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Tuesday, October 20, 2009 - 04:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

IIRC, Syn3 is a Class III oil, which is not a true synthetic. It's based on petroleum and hyper-refined. I am not any expert and there are plenty of people that can elaborate.

Amsoil is Class IV, true synthetic.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Tuesday, October 20, 2009 - 06:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you want to get into details on this sort of thing, go to the forums at http://www.bobistheoilguy.com
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