| Author | Message | ||
     Xb1200rick |
Had the new cr for a week or so and have been reading through all the new info.Of course I have seen all the stuff about removing the noid but did not think to much about it till today!! I was coming down the on ramp to I75 trying to merge into traffic saw a opening in front of 3 trucks and twisted it's ear. The bike fell on its face!! thought I was about to get run over . The noid cable came off tonight. it will have to stay till I get the jumper plug , but at least the cable is gone. Who came up with the bright idea to shut the bike down when you need it most? Rick | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
"Hall Monitors" | ||
| Geforce |
Same thing happened to me except I was on a spirited ride. I whacked it open and the power dropped big time. Came home worried and found some info, ordered the Buell plug, removed the noidy. Happy ever since. | ||
| Chadhargis |
I removed the solenoid, and am waiting on the plug. The bike runs fine without it, you will simply get a code. I can't believe anyone who has reviewed the bike didn't slam it for the hideous "noid". | ||
| Geforce |
I only had it happen to me once... and after that one time, I TRIED as hard as I could to recreate it for my own troubleshooting needs and failed to do it. I had no idea it was normal until getting on here. So I can see why it would be likely many people wouldn't notice it until one magic day when the planets align and scare the bejesus out of you. | ||
| Johnnysunami1967 |
Could someone please fill me in here about "de-noid'ing"...I have a 09 CR and about to purchase a 1125R and use it strictly as a track bike... Where is this noid? What does it do? Why do owners remove it? What are the benefits of removing it? What are the down sides? Does it void the warranty? What does the "plug" do? If I were to de-noid my bike, where can I get the plug and how much is it? Thanks! | ||
| Dirty_john |
gents, if you search the forum there are plenty of posts on the noid, basically I understand it was fitted to get the bike through noise tests, needless to say it was removed from by bike within a couple of hundred miles of collection. | ||
| Boogiman1981 |
wonder if it's be worthwhile to have it posted at the top with the owners manual and such as it is such a common question | ||
| Fresnobuell |
You can THANK BMC for making an easily defeat able EPA-appeasing mechanism. Ask yourself if it would be better to have secondary butterflys, ECM programming or some other hard-to-defeat mechanism to control noise per the EPA? The noid gets grief, but really it's brilliant IMHO. | ||
| Boogiman1981 |
i agree fresno. 100% they comply thinly but comply and we get to undo it easily enough | ||
| Jaimec |
I FINALLY experienced this condition, but safety was not a factor... it was showing off. My buddy took off on his CBR1000RR and I whacked the throttle to catch him. Easy enough to get around though... DOWNSHIFT first. Maybe if it happened more frequently I'd be more annoyed like you guys. | ||
| Ccryder |
Do it b4 it catches you off guard. When you are using the torque available from this engine, the solenoid activates right in that 48-50mph passing "sweet spot". Even after disconnecting mine I'll see the CEL come 3x per week. That tells me that I would have experienced the loss of acceleration if the solenoid was still attached. | ||
| Froggy |
I am also yet to experience it on my 09 CR. | ||
| Orman1649 |
Even if you don't *THINK* you need to take it out…take it out. I didn't bother till I went to whack the throttle and the bike started powering up then just died and took a nose dive. If you havn't experienced it, you don't really want to. We can thank Buell for making it easily defeatable but its very scary & unsafe. Of course…this is just my opinion…I still <3 my CR. | ||
| Xl1200r |
I denoinded within a few days of getting the bike. The Buell plug is only like $6 and change. I never felt it activate while it was in there, and I've never had the light come on either to let me know the ECM is trying to activate it but can't since it's gone. But I feel better not having to even think about it. Jaime - come on over to my place and you can hold mine - once you feel how friggin heavy it is, you'll think twice about leaving it in there. | ||
| Jaimec |
Eh. 7,000 miles and it's happened just once. Non-issue for me. If I weren't so lazy to downshift (as a USUALLY do) it wouldn't've even happened. What is the OFFICIAL "Buell Stance" on de-noiding where the warranty is concerned, by the way? | ||
| Chadhargis |
Since they sell a part to disable it, I wouldn't think it would be a warranty issue. | ||
| Jdugger |
> Jaime - come on over to my place and you can hold mine - once you feel how friggin heavy it is, you'll think twice about leaving it in there. Dang... you guys get frisky! | ||
| Bott |
experienced 'it' 3 times within the first few hundred miles.Six bucks and 5 minutes was well worth it to be rid of the problem for good. | ||
| Ccryder |
Just because you removed the solenoid and installed the "plug" does not mean the ECM won't try and detect the actuation of the solenoid by monitoring the butterflies. That is how the ECM detects solenoid actuation. It will display the CEL at the correct scenario. It will cancel when you cycle the ignition key. The only way you can keep this from happening is to have the race ECM. It doesn't perform this check of the solenoid being in circuit or the solenoid actuating. For $6, it's a cheap fix. Later Neil S. | ||
| Chadhargis |
A CEL light doesn't bother me as long as it clears itself. Thanks to the handy "diagnostic mode" you can read codes in plain english. | ||
| Jaimec |
Just because Buell sells it doesn't mean it won't void the warranty. I haven't read it closely, but if it's like most manufacturers, once you use the bike in competition, the warranty is null and void, despite the fact that Buell sells a whole catalog of race parts. | ||
| Bigblock |
My 08 scared the cr@p out of me numerous times before the bike was de-noided, I got mine in Dec 07, so it seems no one really knew about it then, and perhaps it acted more often or more abruptly with the old programming? I do know, it hung me out to dry quite a few times, on the highway trying to merge with traffic a couple times, and while passing on 2 lane rods several times, before I figured out the problem, (with a little help from badweb) SCARY! ANd then having it kick back on, full throttle, ...WOOHOO! | ||
| Carbonbigfoot |
Remember this guy?  Perfect. R | ||
| Avc8130 |
Just because you install the noid removal kit does not mean you used the bike in competition... Although there is a warning about voiding warranty using "Race" hardware in the 2009 catalog, the noid resistor is under "Details". It is on the same page with Airbox Trim and Cargo Nets. ac (Message edited by avc8130 on August 20, 2009) | ||
| Ccryder |
Chad: They may be english but they are far from plain ;+} | ||
| Chadhargis |
Yeah...but at least they make more sense than a sequence of numbers flashed by a light. | ||
| Jaimec |
I'll ask my dealer about it at the 12,400 service. Thanks. | ||
| Ccryder |
True, you still need the SM to "decode" them ;+} | ||
| Blake |
Gee Johnny, I'm not an 1125 owner, but I'll try to answer your questions... Could someone please fill me in here about "de-noid'ing"...I have a 09 CR and about to purchase a 1125R and use it strictly as a track bike... Where is this noid? Not sure, between the cylinders near the throttle bodies. What does it do? At very specific engine speed and throttle openings it closes in order to reduce noise from the intake. Stupid EPA. Why do owners remove it? To eliminate complexity, reduce weight, and avoid the loss of power. What are the benefits of removing it? See above. What are the down sides? None. Does it void the warranty? No. What does the "plug" do? It stands in place of the solenoid actuator so that the ECM doesn't know the difference and thus doesn't report an error. If I were to de-noid my bike, where can I get the plug and how much is it? It's an off-road only part I think and is available from your dealership.  I may not be 100% correct on all the above, but there you go. |
