| Author | Message | ||
     Marcodesade |
I saw an ad (somewhere here, I think) for a replacement for the 1125 seat retention bolts. It looked like the mechanism was basically a cotter pin through a bolt on each side. It was designed specifically for the 1125, not a universal set. Anyone seen this and, if so, do you have the link? Thanks, Marco | ||
| Buelltech6 |
you can make this product easier than waiting for them to come in the mail | ||
| Ron_luning |
Check out this link: http://www.americansportbike.com/shoponline/ccp0-p rodshow/A16501.html I was thinking of getting it too. I'll probably be paying a visit to them (industrial park from what I've heard) since they're about a 15 minute drive from where I live. | ||
| Cataract2 |
Buelltech, do explain please. | ||
| Marcodesade |
Thanks, Ron_luning --- that's the exact ad I remember. I agree with Buelltech6, it could probably be mocked up easily enough, but I don't know if I have the skills to design it not to shred my seat.  | ||
| Fresnobuell |
For $20 just get the kit....I have it and it is very high quality, just like all things from American Sport Bike | ||
| Marcodesade |
Yeah, that's the way I'm leaning, Fresnobuell. One question though: what keeps the cotter pin from tearing into the seat foam? The picture in the link makes it look like it sticks up (and out sideways) a bit. The main reason I hate the existing setup is I feel like every time I remove the seat it's a rip just waiting to happen. My fear with this product is that it looks like just sitting on it wrong might dig it in. Not true? | ||
| Fresnobuell |
Honestly, my bike is in the shop so I haven't been able to install. I can testify to the quality of the product. The cotter pin is horizontal. The posts that replace the screws (cotter pin slides thru posts to secure seat) is the item that would be sticking up. However, I don't think your butt will contact the posts, but I can't testify to that. I would be surprised if American Sport Bike would sell an item that would be problematic in that sense. | ||
| 4cammer |
Thanks for the link Ron - I will be getting this for my XB9R. The way the seats are attached to our bikes may be one of the more irritating features. | ||
| Kttemplar |
I will definitely get the quick release kit from American Sportbike, but unfortunately, it seems I will have to wait until I need something else from them. I tried to buy the kit and it informed me that I did not order the $20 limit required on the site. I would have purchased it yesterday, but because that is all I wanted to get from them, I will now have to wait until I need something else from them. I am actually quite annoyed that I was unable to purchase the kit because there is a $20 minimum and the kit is $19.95 or whatever. Maybe, I will make one with quick release pins from the local marine equipment shop. What a bummer. | ||
| Kttemplar |
I added a plastic washer (30 cents)to the order to get to the $20 mark so I could order and the shipping is going to be about $12. I will definitely have to wait on the kit since the shipping is 60% of the total cost of the kit. Mike | ||
| Jaimec |
Anyone know why there are two different part numbers, one for the XBR and one for the 1125?? What's the difference? | ||
| Dtx |
The fasteners are actually two different sizes. | ||
| Jmr1283 |
wow 12 bucks for shippin. on a .10 of a pound. | ||
| Ccryder |
The "r" bolts are 1/4-20 and the 1125 bolts are 6mmx1.0 (I think). I find the $12 a little high also. I just got a ZG windshield UPS from Al and it was $15. Not that the windshield is that heavy but the box is much bigger. Hopefully you talked with Al or Joanne. They have always worked with me. Time4Sleep | ||
| Lady_asb |
Hi guys. Just to clarify the shipping... As stated online, and as our existing customers know, we charge what the UPS system charges us, rounded to the nearest invoice amount (we don't mark it up). It is generally less than what the online system comes up with, and is based on order amount, weight, distance from hub, and commercial/residential address, and whatever other criteria UPS uses. Someday we hope to have a more accurate online estimate available, but its not there yet. Al is changing that part to $20 even to simplify ordering, although the clear washer was a good idea, since everyone seems to lose these. Another customer ordered it with the washer, his shippng came to $7.75. Hope that helps. | ||
| Exnorton |
Is U.S.Postal Service's priority mail still 3 bucks? It doesn't look to be that big of part? The shipping stopped me dead in my tracks. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
Priority mail is $4.80 for a flat rate envelope, which would work for this item. It lacks tracking capability however. Also the Priority mail is faster than UPS ground, another benefit. | ||
| Lady_asb |
Priority mail is good for certain things, and we occasionally use it. But here's an example which show why we prefer UPS, especially on first orders... Just today, we were processing an order, and the UPS address verification system showed a different address than what the customer had input. I called the customer, and he realized that he had made an error. No problem, easily fixed. But Priority mail would not have caught that, it would have been sent out to the wrong address, MAYBE sent back, maybe not. As to the cost, $4.80 plus $1.70 insurance = $6.50. The last package we sent to you, Harlan, only cost $6.05. So Priority Mail isn't always less expensive. take care, Joanne | ||
| Dtx |
Hi Joanne, Thanks for contacting me today about the proper shipping address. I am anxious to try the kit! As always, great customer service from American Sportbike! Drake | ||
| Kttemplar |
Thanks for the feedback, but I live in NY, which is as far away from you guys (American Sport Bike) as possible. 1.0lb for UPS Ground is $10.37. I tried to input 0.5lb, but it defaults to 1lb as the billable weight. Again, thanks for the feedback, but I am geographically challenged. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
Keep in mind that UPS does give volume shippers much better rates than to the general public. I did the calculations from CA to NY from one pound from my work and it was quoted about $5.50 for ground. We do alot of shipping and we have offices nationwide. I am sure that American Sport Bike has some sort of business rate discount. | ||
| Zac4mac |
Remember guys - S&H means shipping and HANDLING. Don't bite the hand that feeds you great service and support. Good cross story Drake/Joanne. my 2¢ | ||
| Al_lighton |
Just some general notes: 1) What Joanne said...someday, our web site and shipping systems will be more integrated, with better shipping costs calculated from the shipping weights. For some reason I haven’t figured out, our current web site doesn’t properly aggregate the item weights into the end package weight very well. It’ll be better some day, I’m working on a new website that is taking a very long time and $$ to get up. In the meantime, as the note says, we don't charge the amount shown, we calculate what it really is and charge that. And we don't charge before we ship, so if you need to know what the exact amount will be before we charge and ship, ask, we can tell you. 2) Priority mail for little things is great. Unfortunately, we have systems integration with UPS Worldship, but not with US mail. All US mail stuff is "manually" generated on the wonderful USPS web site, and takes much time (time=$$). If we shipped lots of small US Post orders, we'd probably either pay some SW company big $$ to integrate our billing/shipping systems for US post too, or just add handling fees to cover it. 3) The site has a $20 minimum order. As Mike (Kttemplar) wrote above “I will definitely have to wait on the kit since the shipping is 60% of the total cost of the kit.” Orders under $20 almost very often like this, and don’t make a lot of sense for either of us. We don’t make enough to cover our package and order processing time, you don’t get a reasonable return on your shipping dollar. If I was looking to get this product, or any something like this that doesn't cost very much and/or isn't mission critical/time constrained, I'd probably not order it by itself. I'd just remember to tack it onto some other order of stuff that I needed some day. Or buy a couple things that I KNOW I’ll need, such as an oil filter or two. 4) We aren’t Amazon. We do get some discount on the shipping from UPS, but it’s not all that huge because we aren’t shipping hundreds of packages any given day. A real busy day is 30 packages, but there are plenty that we ship 2-5 packages. Whatever discounts we get are pretty much offset by the costs of boxes, peanuts, tape, etc. 5) You can make it for less!!! It's true. Get two 1/4-20 SS bolts (or M6), 2 low profile SS nuts, 2 SS cotter keys the right size, 2 nylon coated SS rope lanyards. Cut the bolt head off at the right height. Drill a hole through it at the right size and height, deburr and countersink the entrance to the hole (this sounds easier than it is if you don't have the right tools). Grind a hemispherical end onto the bolt, approximate is OK. Assemble. Buying TWO, and only TWO, of the above parts is probably not so easy unless you live near a great HW store. You might need to buy a small bag of several (or a box of 25, or 50) of some of the parts, and have them shipped. Bottom line...if you have the parts and tools at your disposal...MAKE IT, it's not hard. If you work in a machine shop or have access to one, all the better. But if you have to go out and source the parts and/or buy any tool, unless YOUR time is worth nothing, just buy it. Al | ||
| Edmbueller |
Once again AL, your service to the Buell community is impeccable. Where else will someone who sells a product be so honest as to tell you the honesty in the above message. Thanks Al. | ||
| 4cammer |
Folks, I used to work for an internet auction website that had a terrible (and earned) reputation of raping customers on shipping. This is not good business and will kill repeat buyers. From what I have seen American Sport Bike is one of the most upfront and honest bike related companies out there, and most customers rave about them. Shipping is only going to get more expensive, nothing businesses (especially smaller businesses) can do about it. And Al, thanks for the tip on how to make the seat pins myself. I will have an order to you by the end of the week! | ||
| Al_lighton |
Thanks guys... One other thing... To build it "right", you want a bolt that has a non threaded portion of the shank instead of drilling through and rounding off the threaded portion. The problem is, a bolt that has a non-threaded shank has too long a threaded portion. So you'd need to cut the head off a longer bolt,and then cut the threaded portion shorter as well. We don't make them from cut up bolts. I submitted a drawing to a screw machine shop and had them machined properly, with a machined on hemisphere, and the right length threaded and unthreaded portion. Al | ||
| Fresnobuell |
So Priority Mail isn't always less expensive. Agreed. From my experience, postal service is more economical for lighter items and UPS/Fed Ex ground is better for heavier items. And $6.09 shipping for my last order is very acceptable, and cheaper that Priority mail with insurance, as JOanne stated. I do like the fact that something from So Cal to Central Cal is a next day delivery (most of the time) with USPS versus a two-day delivery with UPS. thanks for the insight and breakdown Al/Joanne. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
Also, when possible ship to a commercial address versus a residential address. There is a fuel surcharge that gets applied to residential deliveries. I tend to get stuff shipped to my work as opposed to home. | ||
| Kttemplar |
AL, Thanks for all of the great feedback. I plan to buy the parts, but as I said and as you mentioned it is not cost effective for me to get just that kit. I will tack it onto other parts that I buy from you guys in the future. I am also trying to move closer to SoCal within the next few months, so that will reduce my shipping costs. Mike |
