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Tibman260
Posted on Wednesday, February 04, 2009 - 09:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just out of curiosity, how many people use their cluster's built in security system? If you do use it, do you use it in theft on or theft ask mode? I usually keep mine in theft ask mode but don't find many opportunities to use it.
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Marcodesade
Posted on Wednesday, February 04, 2009 - 10:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've been thinking about activating it, but I have a question: when exactly does it ask? If I stall the bike in traffic (I'm embarrassed to admit I've done it a couple times), do I have to mess with the thing, or does that only happen when turning the key on?
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Mikellyjo
Posted on Wednesday, February 04, 2009 - 11:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll never admit this face to face...but I have stalled the bike on occasion with the theft system activated. Id does not ask you to enter the pin unless you turn the key off.

I have the theft mode set to the timer setting If I don't input the pin within a few minutes it does not activate. If i am in the cities or on a road trip I'll set the pin. But for local driving I just let the timer spin down without entering the pin.

I then use a brake grenade to stop someone from rolling off with the bike.

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Fresnobuell
Posted on Wednesday, February 04, 2009 - 02:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I used it a few times when the feature was new and novel. I never use it now. I even took off the countdown timer to activate for the sake of the battery.

I think if BMC did one minor change, alot of people would use it more. Rather than having to enter the PIN to activate during the countdown timer--why not just have a simple Y/N. It's a true PITA to toggle the PIN with those buttons that work only most of the time.

I know it's a safety feature of sorts so you don't accidentally lock the bike up without knowing the PIN to unlock it, but for me at least, it makes the system useless on a day to day basis.

They could a an option that would allow the user to choose the quick or extended method.
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Tijuanajack
Posted on Wednesday, February 04, 2009 - 04:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I for one use it in ask mode. When I am somewhere that is questionable I enter my pin before I leave and use the brake grenade as well. But that still does not stop anyone from stealing it.

Mine was stolen last year during the Master's Golf tournament. They were not able to joy ride or get replacement parts to bypass the pin lockout. As the dealership will verify ownership as they do when ordering your keys. My bike was recovered but not without cosmetic damage.

In short the security system works. But if they want your bike they'll just pick it up and walk off with it as it is light. My $.02

Toby
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Steeleagle
Posted on Wednesday, February 04, 2009 - 04:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If I stall the bike in traffic (I'm embarrassed to admit I've done it a couple times), do I have to mess with the thing, or does that only happen when turning the key on?

It "asks" or auto-locks only when you turn the key off (and have the option set as such). I have it set to "ask" and use it when I park in public. When I don't opt to secure it, I just let it time out.

I find it to provide some peace of mind that it MIGHT slow a thief down or make their life a bit more complicated if they lift the bike. I've never stalled it in public, or lied about never stalling it, or left my sidestand down, or lied about never leaving my sidestand down. ...and I have oceanfront property in Arizona if you're interested.


(Message edited by steeleagle on February 04, 2009)
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Wednesday, February 04, 2009 - 05:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The only way it would deter a thief is if the little red light was more prominent. It it too small and blinks too slow to be noticed (except maybe in a dark parking lot.) By the time the thief realizes that the bike has a security system, it's already gone.

Of course, if you beef up the warning light then you hurt the already weak battery even more. What to do?
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Orman1649
Posted on Wednesday, February 04, 2009 - 06:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have it set to ask but rarely ever actually arm the system. I spent the cash to get a lo jack installed. If the bike moves and the keyfob isn't within 30 feet, I get a phone call, email, and text msg.

*Hopefully* I never have to find out how well the Lo Jack works...or doesn't work.
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Dynasport
Posted on Wednesday, February 04, 2009 - 06:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

In short the security system works. But if they want your bike they'll just pick it up and walk off with it as it is light. My $.02

I guess it's good my Harley is so heavy after all!

(Message edited by dynasport on February 04, 2009)
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Carbonbigfoot
Posted on Wednesday, February 04, 2009 - 06:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You know how the thumbprint scanners are like 30 or 40 bucks now? I think that would be the absolute shizzle. Just press your thumb up against a little window on the console, and BING! The ingition is on, as if you turned the key. Flip the kill switch to on, and fire her up. To lock, you kill it, and press you thumb in the same place for about 3 seconds, and CLICK. Locked.

No Key.

Rob
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Marcodesade
Posted on Wednesday, February 04, 2009 - 08:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for the info, guys. That's exactly what I had in mind: PIN it up when I have to leave it out of sight for a while, otherwise don't bother.

FWIW, I also use the grenade. I don't know if it's as solid as some of the other products out there, but DAMN it looks good.
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Wednesday, February 04, 2009 - 09:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

In short the security system works.


It might work in a functional sense, but it is cumbersome and not effective at deterring a thief until it's too late. I would think a high percentage of bike thefts are the "toss it into the pickup or trailer" variety. My 2 cents.
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