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Marcodesade
Posted on Sunday, January 18, 2009 - 01:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey.

I bought the tank bra for my 1125R. It says it fits the XB models, and the guy at HD swore it would fit my 1125. But it doesn't. The grommets are far too close together, even when I stretch it HARD (I've put on car bras before, so I know the usual issues). Is the 1125 air intake cover IDENTICAL to the XB's, or only similar?

Thanks,

Marco
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Pariah
Posted on Sunday, January 18, 2009 - 02:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hmmm... I have the XB version, and it fits my 1125R... it took some effort to get on (made me think twice, but I got it on after some fiddling and hard pulling).
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Marcodesade
Posted on Sunday, January 18, 2009 - 02:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

OK, I'll keep stretching it. I just wanted to make sure it's the same air box before I rip the damn thing. Thanks!
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Hooliagn
Posted on Sunday, January 18, 2009 - 05:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have the tank bra on my CR and it took some stretching but it's on there and it's a nice fit and look. Put the Velcro on the inside of the airbox cover on one side first then stretch that badboy over to the other side. You can readjust once you got it all stretched out.
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Bobup
Posted on Sunday, January 18, 2009 - 11:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

maybe your problem is that you are trying to cover the "tank"......it is made to fit over the AIRBOX COVER


had to do it.......ROFLMAO
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Hooliagn
Posted on Sunday, January 18, 2009 - 12:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ha Ha .... LOL
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Badlionsfan
Posted on Sunday, January 18, 2009 - 01:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The air box covers are the same, so the bras are the same too.

Tip--
make sure it's warm whey you try to put it on. If it's a little chilly, warm it up with a hair dryer then install.
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Redscuell
Posted on Sunday, January 18, 2009 - 06:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

B.S. to all the above 'tips'; the bra is the very first thing I ordered for my 1125R -- long before my bike arrived here -- and fitting it is a nightmare. I'm an industrial designer specialising in such sewn products, and I can categorically say that, just as the BMC tail bag is a superb example of design engineering and build quality, the bra is a disaster in terms of its design.

Both grommets -- which are metal by the way -- in the bra that the rear airbox screws go through, became 'extruded' during installation, leaving a SHARP burr on the inside of both; and trying to get the alignment of the screw on the left side while the bra fabric was stretched resulted in cross-threading, which resulted in the brass fitting in my airbox base pulling out!

My solution was to slit the bra on either side of the grommets. Then after I'd had it on for one ride I took it off anyway: the rub marks in my hero blue cover were on top if it, past the bra anyway! Crap. The tail bag, however, went on in seconds and is a standout in utility, too.
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Hooliagn
Posted on Sunday, January 18, 2009 - 08:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You are a designer and you couldn't see that the grommets weren't going to work. I didn't even try to use them because it was evident on sight of the potential problems. My bra went on in minutes fits fine, looks good and NO problems. The Velcro and strap are more then enough to hold it in place.

If putting a bra on your bike was a "nightmare" for you, then stay away from checking your oil.
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Jmr1283
Posted on Sunday, January 18, 2009 - 08:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

hooligan i havent seen the bra but if they have a mounting system in place( i guess the "grommets") to secure the bra and they dont work then redsuell is right in saying what he did.

why do u have to throw a rude comment out

"If putting a bra on your bike was a "nightmare" for you, then stay away from checking your oil.

this site is being hurt by those comments. people cant have a oppinion with out getting stoned. jeeze! -1000
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Ponti1
Posted on Sunday, January 18, 2009 - 08:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have no desire to be involved in the winter scuffles that love to plague BadWeb, but do need to attest to the airbox "bra" working fine on my 1125R.

I used the grommets also. Why wouldn't I? The 1125 airbox cover is identical to the XB airbox cover!

If it doesn't fit, we should have tons of XB owners chiming in to complain.
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Hooliagn
Posted on Sunday, January 18, 2009 - 08:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh, you thought my comment was rude but Red calling everyones previous advice "BS" was not...

I have the bra and put it on in a matter of minutes. Not to mention the grommet holes are to big for the screw heads in the first place.
I'm not a "sew products designer" and I had NO problems with the bra..... That's fact !

Now, my opinion,(nothing rude) was that if he had "nightmares" with the bra the oil checking procedure would make him an insomniac.

How exactly is that site hurting ?

Cut it out, some of you are acting like little schoolgirls.

(Message edited by Hooliagn on January 18, 2009)
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Dentguy
Posted on Sunday, January 18, 2009 - 08:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

why do u have to throw a rude comment out

Seems to be the trend on here. Not to correct Ponti1, but you could take the word winter out of the winter scuffles comment. It not just a winter thing here.
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Carbonbigfoot
Posted on Sunday, January 18, 2009 - 09:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Be thankful that you have something you get to ride every day, that the bras designed for her are too snug to fit!!

Sounds like it's worth the trouble to me...

R
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Jmr1283
Posted on Sunday, January 18, 2009 - 09:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

it just seems that a lot people are quick to throw comments out that arent very nice. and hooligan ur right calling everyone elses comments bs isnt cool either

i shouldnt have called u (hooligan) out, when i see now u were sorta stickin up for every one else.

its hard to enjoy this site anymore when every other post is so negative.
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Marcodesade
Posted on Sunday, January 18, 2009 - 10:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, that was interesting!

For what it's worth, my whole question about this mess was because the grommet holes ARE way out of place on my product --- well over an inch too close together --- and, had I thought about it, velcro would have been a better solution. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't trying to stretch it over a larger box than it was designed for.

That being said, I did get it on the bike, and it looks reasonably good. Thanks, Hooligan and Pariah, for the info. There are a few wrinkles, but I'm waiting for it to stretch out a bit before I take the box off and finalize the velcro placement.

All in all, if anyone else is thinking about this product, I would recommend the aluminum tank pad instead. Less coverage of the airbox, but better looking and more distinctive in my opinion.
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Zac4mac
Posted on Monday, January 19, 2009 - 09:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have 2 airboxes, the Black one Loretta came with and the Orange Translucid she wears every day.
Both have bras, both have rear airbox screws thru the grommets.
I didn't have any problems getting either mounted.

Stretch it several times during fitting, get it just a tad loose and let it shrink back in.
Kinda like sitting in the bathtub in a new pair of Levis 501s.

+1+ Badlionsfan, just like stretching a tonneau, the bra needs to be warm to stretch.
My frame/tank is polished and I like the way the bra holds my knees.

Z
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Redscuell
Posted on Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 10:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My comment above: "B.S. to all the above 'tips'". To quote one of my all-time heroes, Charlton Heston, "mea culpa, mea culpa".

With my above comment, I meant no insult to Board posters (I didn't mean that their posts were B.S.). What I meant, and should have said, was "don't settle for 'tips' to make the bra work, because the real problem is the design of the bra itself".

As an example of good design I used the Buell tailbag: attaching it doesn't require disassembly of any part of the bike (popping off the pillion seat with a key latch is not 'disassembly'); it's pre-molded to fit the contour of the pillion seat; there is no stretching to fit; and as a bonus, it's well-made and provides real utility. And its styling is quite handsome.

As an example of poor design I used the so-called tank mask, even though as we know it's not a tank. This requires the removal of 6 screws: the pair that hold the seat in place, and the 4 that hold the airbox in place. Along the way it requires removal of the seat. The removal of all this is necessary because the bra attaches with velcro along the underside edges of the airbox. The leading corners of the mask are intended to be held down by a length of cord the ends of which are in fact, on mine, secured only by a stitch or two (no, that count is not hyperbole). The process of fitting is time-consuming and can require more than one attempt to eliminate wrinkling.

To make the mask into an example of good industrial design, there would be no need to remove either the seat or the airbox (and in my case, my steering damper, too), nor would there be any need for stretching-to-fit. One would simply attach the pre-moulded mask to the rear of the airbox. How does the song go, "I can show you how, but I have to charge"?

Would anyone here settle for a car bra that required removal of parts of the hood or grille to attach it; or a steering wheel cover that required removal of the steering wheel? Or would gun owners buy a holster (my specialty in the field of industrial design) that required that their pistol be partially disassembled to fit the holster? I think not.

Now, as for my mentioning that I have actual credentials for my opinion, that set off a few folks. You're entitled to your opinion. But don't piss off the millions and millions of U.S. Armed Forces members who've been carrying my industrial designs for decades! They carry weapons into battle, and protect your country, and your sorry asses in the meantime.
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Zac4mac
Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2009 - 10:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There is a big difference between a holster and the tank bra and their fitment.
A holster should be the right size for a smooth fit, a pistol should drop in and release easily.

The tank bra needs to be a skin-tight fit.
You can't get skin-tight without stretching.

Two very different sewn products...IMO.

Z
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Marcodesade
Posted on Friday, January 23, 2009 - 01:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, since it was my original question that started this turd-slinging contest, let me weigh in. I have installed bras on 2 different model cars, and both were a little tough to fit on - as Zac4mac says, they HAVE to be tight, or they'll flap in the wind.

But, as Redscuell and others point out, the mask for the 1125 is a pretty poor fit, and not really all that well-thought-out, even if it did fit better. Although I eventually got it to look *OK* (but just OK), in hindsight I wish I had spent the extra $10 and got the brushed aluminum piece instead.
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