| Author | Message | ||
     Pariah |
Like some of you, I've already installed the '09 clutch cover on my '08 1125R, and I've noticed some of us already have '09 body work on our '08s. This got me thinking... If I wanted to, how many of the '09 modifications could I incorporate into my '08? It looks like everything is pretty much "bolt on", right? Injectors, headers/O2 sensors, ECM and instrument cluster can be retrofitted, right? Only the '09 spools seem practically infeasible... and, hopefully, I can keep my '08 ECM and just get an '09 mapping. Why would I want to? Well, I guess if it makes the whole machine a smoother operating one, I'd strongly consider it. It would be cool if Buell would offer us '08 pioneers a "package deal" on something like this... (Message edited by Pariah on December 03, 2008) | ||
| Slypiranna |
hmmmm...we'll see soon enough!  | ||
| Pariah |
Hey Sly, have you heard something?!?! Please feel free to provide details...  | ||
| Adoogie3 |
Can a instrument cluster can be retrofitted?I have had a new one installed recently by the dealer but the gear indicator only shows nuetral what parts do i need to show all the gear postions. | ||
| Nxtr |
If your gear indicator only shows neutral something is wrong. the 09 IC has a green N light up top and it also shows N and 1-6 on the LCD display. Did you get yours replaced with a take off 08, old stock 08, or did they order you a new 09 IC? V/R, Nick | ||
| Adoogie3 |
I have a 08 with a 09 cluster.Mine was damaged under warranty.They said only nuetral would work cause the 08s dont have a sensor and the harness???? | ||
| Teach |
Pariah Interesting concept, retrofitting an 08 into an 09. On most models, changes are incorporated into the new years model to make it better. Actually, sometimes this is done during the model year run, as needs arise. My 08, with the latest reflash is running really good. Does the 09 run better?? I would imagine that the O2 sensor location change and targeted fuel injectors would make it even better. Anyway, back to your question. I would question the return on your investment. It may be a personal thing, for myself, I am investing in a steering damper, which I believe will really help me. I also am contemplating replacing the bodywork with the Arctic White and installing the Hero Blue Windshield. I would leave the pods black. The stock color scheme is a little too "dark" for me. But the really great thing is that people are having so much fun trying to personalize this bike. I would hope that Buell and other aftermarket suppliers would continue to make more products to help us make these bikes "our own". Most people "shy" away from purchasing a new bike the first year it comes out, so I applaud you! We both have the "25TH" anniversary model and we have the very man's name emblazoned on our triple clamp that started the company!! That's pretty cool. Forgive me for writing a novel, but I think all of us that purchased the 08's should be congratulated. We overcame the instinct to wait until the next year because we believed in Erik Buell and Buell. Way to go!! (Message edited by teach on December 04, 2008) | ||
| Spectrum |
I have a 08 with a 09 cluster.Mine was damaged under warranty.They said only nuetral would work cause the 08s dont have a sensor and the harness???? The Gear Indicator folks are referring to is in the LCD. It does not require any additional sensor or harness because it's calculated based on engine RPM and MPH/KPH. In other words you have to be moving for it to work and there is a slight lag. Zac or one of the other converts can jump in with their experience on doing the 09 Speedo upgrade, but it does work. I have an 09 Speedo in the box just waiting to get the free time to get it installed. | ||
| Pariah |
I guess part of what has motivated me to consider the retrofit are the opinions of some people who've ridden both '08 and '09 1125s. Perhaps best exemplified in the Motorcyclist review of the '09 1125CR (which received 4 out of 5 stars)--- "Every bit as good as the '08 1125R wasn't"... an earlier review of the '08 1125R in Motorcyclist garnered 3/5 stars (and I think they were being nice). Granted, they haven't reviewed the '08 1125R with the latest remapping, but you gotta wonder what makes the '09 so good, and how we--- as '08 owners--- might achieve the same level of performance... if Buell could offer us a header/injector/mapping package only, could we get there for only a few hundred bucks? Like you say, Teach, maybe it isn't worth it... it depends on how much this retrofit kit would be, of course. How wonderful it would be for Anony to chime in here with insights... does the latest re-flash for the '08s amount to 99.9% of the improvement realized with the '09 machine? (Message edited by Pariah on December 04, 2008) | ||
| Luisemilio25r |
Question: I know this tread is about retrofitting the mechanical parts, but how about the body? Has anyone tried the red plastics on an 08 blue frame? too spidermanish? if so, pictures anybody? | ||
| Teach |
Luisemilio25r Funny you mentioned that, we are putting together an 08 with the Arctic White fairing, Hero Blue windshield, white air box cover and white rear tail section. We are leaving the front fender and pod covers black to blend in with the black muffler, etc. I will post pictures when complete. We may try the red, also. You know having a really wild paint combo might be fun with this bike... | ||
| C4bird |
If it helps, I have an 09 motor in my 08, and it runs great. The injectors, motor and tranny is all 09. Wiring, exhaust, O2's, cluster and ECU and such as far as I was told is my original 08. (Message edited by c4bird on December 04, 2008) | ||
| Slypiranna |
C4bird, Great input! Sure they didn't flash the ecu tho? I'd be curious to know your calibration #?...should be on record somewhere with the dealer or BMC if such was done. The only reason I'm asking is that there is two completely different cals for the two years, and injector/o2 differences. Thanks for any info you can get! WE appreciate it! My post about the CR version is only relevant to gearing correction, not ness'y mapping...just so there is no confusion. | ||
| Nxtr |
Adoogie3 Spectrum is correct as well, the read out is on the LCD, and it will only work if moving, it does lag a little and shows --- when you pull the clutch. I have an 09 on my 08 no sensors or harness needed, it is all plug and play. If yours is not working as described the you may have a bad IC... V/R, Nick | ||
| Adoogie3 |
YOU GUYS ARE ALL CORRECT IT DOES WORK.I JUST LOOKED AT IT BRIEFLY AT THE DEALERSHIP WHEN I PICKED HER UP . I FLIPPED THROUGH THE GEARS AND NOTICED NOTHING APPEARRING.I WAS TOLD IT WOULDNT WORK CAUSE IT DIDNT HAVE THE 09 CASE.I RODE IT TONIGHT AND NOTICED IT HAS TO BE MOVING TO REGISTER WHAT GEAR ITS IN.. THATS COOL AND A GOOD DESIGN.SHOWS HOW MUCH MY DEALER KNOWS ABOUT BUELLS I GUESS??? | ||
| Zac4mac |
Andrew - try decaf. Oh, BTW your caps lock is on... Z | ||
| Dirty_john |
The 09 cluster is cool, only problem is I want gear indicator with coolant temp not intake air temp - great bike and this is a minor complaint. It is a pity that the cluster cannot be configured to whatever 2 parameters the rider wishes to display and not one of the predetermined options. | ||
| Spectrum |
+1 What John said. I installed the 09 cluster yesterday. Not sure why they thought we would prefer to see an inaccurate ambient temperature over coolant temperature. On another note the 09 cluster appears less inaccurate on ambient temperature than the 08. Seems to run 4-5 degrees high as opposed to 8-10 with the 08. Anyone else notice this? Haven't had it at highway speeds for an extended period of time yet. Might be spot on then as the 08 was less inaccurate when there was consistent air flow. | ||
| C4bird |
I'll ask next time I'm there (hopefully this week). They have the bike still for turn signal replacement (3rd time, new design signals this time I guess). | ||
| Jerseyguy |
'08 arctic white.   | ||
| Teach |
Jerseyguy Very nice looking, did you use the Hero Blue windshield?? We are doing one in white, but keeping the pod covers and front fender black. We will see how that looks. | ||
| Jerseyguy |
No, I left it clear, although I might get the smoked one. I just thought the hero blue kind of clashed with the darker blue frame.  | ||
| Teach |
It really looks great. We are re-thinking about leaving the pods and front fender black. Thanks, | ||
| Carbonbigfoot |
"On another note the 09 cluster appears less inaccurate on ambient temperature than the 08. Seems to run 4-5 degrees high as opposed to 8-10 with the 08. Anyone else notice this? " On my CR, it is WWWAAAAAAAaaaaaa the heck off. I mean, 30-40 deg, when the engine is hot and I'm in traffic. Even on the highway, it's not as close as 4-5 deg. I do have the inner airbox removed, would that rob the sensor of some airflow? Hmmm. R | ||
| Jerseyguy |
Teach - I thought the white on the pods made them seem visually smaller. | ||
| Teach |
I agree, just ordered the white pods and front fender. Thanks! | ||
| Krassh |
It would be fun to mix and match the black and white pieces. I wonder how many people would slow down if they saw a black and white config in their mirrors. LOL! | ||
| Teach |
I would think that an 08R with white bodywork would be faster. | ||
| Ridenusa4l |
Hey jerseyguy nice to see im not alone out there lol...except i have the "brighter" blue for the decals...  Jake |
