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Buellborn
Posted on Saturday, November 29, 2008 - 06:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I did a google on your topic. I could not find what you are speaking of. Do tell.

(EDIT = this post was a followup question to the original post that is no longer visible)



(Message edited by buellborn on November 30, 2008)
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Slypiranna
Posted on Saturday, November 29, 2008 - 06:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It was more so a question as to where to go from here in this economy.
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Doerman
Posted on Saturday, November 29, 2008 - 07:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That does not make sense for a wholly owned subsidiary like BMC.

The reward to the principals comes through a boost in the HD stock price and/or internal MBO based bonuses, stock options or other compensation mechanisms.
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Two_buells
Posted on Saturday, November 29, 2008 - 09:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

in 1993 H-D bought 49% of Buell, a few years later H-D Bought another 49% with Erik keeping 2%.

In 2007 Buell brought in $100.5 million in revenue and shipped 11,513 bikes




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Court
Posted on Saturday, November 29, 2008 - 10:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

In deference to the marvel of consistency not a single thing on this thread is accurate.
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Two_buells
Posted on Sunday, November 30, 2008 - 12:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

fill us in Court!
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Slypiranna
Posted on Sunday, November 30, 2008 - 12:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I thought HD owned 51% and BMC 49%. Is this true?

When a person buys stock, is it HD you are buying or is there a way to purchase only Buell?
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Two_buells
Posted on Sunday, November 30, 2008 - 12:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Check out 1993 and 1998

http://www.harley-davidson.com/wcm/Content/Pages/H -D_History/history_1990s.jsp?locale=en_US
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Anonymous
Posted on Sunday, November 30, 2008 - 03:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

100% owned by H-D Inc. since 2003.
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Court
Posted on Sunday, November 30, 2008 - 03:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>>I thought HD owned 51% and BMC 49%. Is this true?

Inaccurate.


>>>>100% owned by H-D Inc. since 2003.

Accurate.
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Slypiranna
Posted on Sunday, November 30, 2008 - 05:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

WOW, then I was fed a good spoonful of fish $hit!...and swallowed it for this last year.

Now things make sense as to what is going on.

IMO, further efforts need to be made on the ownership level (INPUT) of Buell AND the ears of HD/Dealerships that sell (support?) what is, their product.

Thank you Anonymous and Court for the education.

To think it took this long, for me at least, to understand the truth...

Good information IS important. That is why I rely on BadWeb! ; )

ps...I deleted my original post after the fact, was unsure of what information that my selling dealer gave me to begin with. Now we know better...and hopefully, further good will only come of me looking like a fool herein!: )

(Message edited by slypiranna on November 30, 2008)
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Teddagreek
Posted on Sunday, November 30, 2008 - 07:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Buellborn
Posted on Sunday, November 30, 2008 - 07:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ack
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Court
Posted on Sunday, November 30, 2008 - 08:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Shoulda carried the theme on to the plates, guards and belly cover.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Sunday, November 30, 2008 - 08:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

IMHO the best XB lightning built to date... Marketing not withstanding. The 9sx is a *really* close second, and maybe its a draw if you take $$ into account.

I want that bike with my 9's clear blue. And my HID. And my garmin wiring. And the Polly heaters.
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Zac4mac
Posted on Sunday, November 30, 2008 - 08:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Looks like a Formica table from the 60s.
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Thunderbox
Posted on Monday, December 01, 2008 - 01:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wow mark up is pretty decent. Divide the 100 million by 11513 bikes and its only 8600 per machine. That doesn't include parts and accesories. But 11513 must be a record for sales.
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Two_buells
Posted on Monday, December 01, 2008 - 01:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"11513 must be a record for sales"

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