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Bigdog_tim
Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2008 - 08:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I noticed my coolant level was a little low. So I figured this was a good opportunity to add some Water Wetter.

I was about 2.5 oz low - so made up the difference with Water Wetter. Afterwards, I rode about 80 miles. 40 of those miles were normal highway speed riding, 10 miles of city "stop/go", and 30 miles of ripping it on back roads.

Although I never had noticed heat from the frame that was overbearing (and have not been burned), the frame felt REMARKEDLY cooler. I don't have measurements - this is just a bare handed feel.

As for the CT reading - highest was 190 and that was during the stop/go traffic. Temps in Seattle today were around 80 (during my ride).

I did a very similar route yesterday - CT got as high as 210 during stop/go. Even on freeway riding, temps were between 190-195. Of course, it was hot here yesterday (94).

The lower ambient temps today made up some of the difference - but I attribute a lot to adding Water Wetter. It absolutely cooled things down.
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Metalstorm
Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2008 - 10:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Interesting..

One of the Buell engineers (one who worked on the 1125R project) told me briefly that that the Water Wetter works wonders when added to straight water but doesn't really do much when added to a water/coolant mix.

He said on the track where you're only allowed to run water it's amazing how well it works.
Drawbacks are that that it doesn't have the anti corrosion properties of normal coolant and it can freeze in winter.

I am ignorant of this sorta stuff so I gotta take the engineers word.
But, if you're getting good results with the stuff mixed in with the coolant that's pretty darn cool. err.. no pun intended.
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Bigdog_tim
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2008 - 12:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

To be fair, I was quite skeptical as well. But is was only around $12. The Water Wetter web said it does provide "advantages" for ethelyne glycol fluids as well. So - I figured - what the heck.

I will keep running anti-freeze (it does freeze where I live in the winter) - but I will keep a couple of ozs of Water Wetter in it. My "guess" is that I probably am running 5-10 degrees cooler (taking into consideration the slighter cooler day today).
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Jpfive
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2008 - 07:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My results were similar to your, Tim. Water wetter is working as advertised in my bike, added to the stock ethylene glycol mix.

Jack
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Kttemplar
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2008 - 11:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I added Water Wetter to my 50/50 EG as well and have experienced improved cooling of about 6-8 degrees.
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Gentleman_jon
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2008 - 12:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Very interesting.

Might try some in my Jeep.
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2008 - 01:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I added WW to my 50/50 mix and I have a gut feeling like it is cooling better. Before last Thursday (I hit 214,) I would have said that it was topping out post-WW at 208 degrees on a hot day, as opposed to the pre-WW 215 degrees. But now that is in question. I do feel like it takes longer to get that hot and on cooler days it is running cooler than before WW. Hard to say. Maybe it is all in my mind.

If it wasn't such an utter pain in the ass to get the the hose off the left side radiator, I would drain the whole system and go straight H20 and WW.
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Chadhargis
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2008 - 02:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Give Engine Ice a try. I know NESBA and STT allow it at track days. It's what I'm running in my Gixxer, and no matter how hard I beat that bike on the track, it runs between 170 and 180 degrees.

If I stop and let it idle, it will creep up above 200 and the fan will kick on. Then you'll feel like a baked potato. : )
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Bobup
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2008 - 03:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Engine Ice is also supposed to have a corrosion inhibitor in it....can't say first hand

I have only added a bit o Motul Mo' Cool (spelling?) and have noticed an improvment of about 5-15 degrees....so far so good
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Easyrider
Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2008 - 02:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just orderd some WW, so next time on the dyno I let you guys now what happend to the heat development..
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Cccpull
Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2008 - 05:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I used Water Wetter on a couple of new cars and motorcycles in previous years and it would produce a brown muck in the overflow tank, so I stopped using it.
The additional cooling I got were from changing the water/coolant ratio to 70% water to 30% coolant, instead of 50/50.
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Focus01
Posted on Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 04:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Would either adding water wetter or engine ice void the warrantee? I asked the dealer near me about this and they said it would.
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Chadhargis
Posted on Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 12:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Water Wetter, maybe...since it doesn't have as much lubrication properties as anti-freeze.

Engine Ice is supposed to give you all the benefits of regular anti-freeze, plus some.

http://www.engineice.com/
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Spectrum
Posted on Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 12:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Focus01. Engine Ice meets or exceeds all the same SAE standards as traditional anti-freeze. Based on that the answer should be no impact to warranty. Just like with none HD oils, certainly dealers will BS you other wise.
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 06:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

anyone tried to get that left side radiator hose of the 11 yet? It's very difficult to even get the darn clip off the hose, let alone free the hose...Tips!?
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