| Author | Message | ||
     Teddagreek |
Title says it all! Come on buell! Not even as a accessory... I'm going to be buying in the near future.. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
The CR is a step towards a streetfighter version of the 1125r. Now if they made an RR version, I could understand... | ||
| Brad1445 |
WTF +1 Months of waiting for a bikini fairing we could buy online? | ||
| Rainman1ne |
If I was at homecoming I would have nagged them everyday about that, even before knowing about the 09 stuff. This is a "R" isn't it? Buell, you want a sportbike, don't you? Lets hope they don't think no one will buy one. The bike is getting pretty boring to look at, now MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN!!!!!! They have plenty sitting around (Henry Duga) but someone is holding everything up to get them to the public (not henry's fault, I know someone would have grilled me for that). | ||
| Chrisb |
Jake is about to get blasted... | ||
| Chameleon |
Do you see a lower fairing on ANY other Buell? No. It's just not their style. I, for one, appreciate the naked look. There are aftermarket lower fairings available. | ||
| Teddagreek |
the style is great for a street fighter... Just 1125r looks unfinished without the fairing... If you like it fine that's all good, I just think most people would like to see one.. This is business what happened to catering to what your customers wants.. If its available for racers why not make it available for every one.. | ||
| Chameleon |
As far as I can tell Buell *IS* catering to their customers. If [potential] customers were so inclined to have a factory full fairing they would be writing in to Buell HQ in droves to make such a request and it would be provided because, as you pointed out, part of business is catering to customer demand. Erik Buell has repeatedly stated that he builds bikes primarily intended for the street, not the track. His interest lies in the ultimate street bike. The 1125CR is evidence of this fact. A track bike is only useful to the select few that are able to sustain track racing efforts which, if you haven't noticed, is not everybody. Therefore, the lack of a factory fairing is obvious evidence that you are in the minority. BTW, the aftermarket fairings ARE available for EVERYBODY. You simply must order one from the aftermarket vendors, which are NOT Buell. So really this argument is moot. p.s. How many letters have you written to Buell HQ pleading for a factory fairing? My guess is zero. p.p.s. I may be wrong about there not being a factory fairing... Regardless, the aftermarket does still offer them and they are not very expensive. So stop whining and order one. (Message edited by chameleon on July 23, 2008) | ||
| Chameleon |
If I was at homecoming I would have nagged them everyday about that, even before knowing about the 09 stuff. This is a "R" isn't it? Buell, you want a sportbike, don't you? Lets hope they don't think no one will buy one. The bike is getting pretty boring to look at, now MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN!!!!!! They have plenty sitting around (Henry Duga) but someone is holding everything up to get them to the public (not henry's fault, I know someone would have grilled me for that). Nagging rarely accomplishes much. I suspect that you're not married, if you were, you would probably know how it feels to be nagged. It makes me mad and far less inclined to do what I'm being nagged about. Buell HAS made a sportbike. Being naked does not make it less so. In fact they have two different sport bike models (1125R & XB12R). I think that you are confusing "sport bike" with "supersport bike". If they promoted the 1125R as a "supersport bike", then yes, it would be expected to come with a factory fairing. Buell obviously recognizes that a fairing can be added on simply and inexpensively. My opinion, which I'm sure others here share, is that a fully faired sport bike is far more boring to look at because you cannot see the beautiful craftwork which is the motor... Perhaps the reason most foreign bikes are fully faired is because the inline 4 motors are boring and not worth looking at? | ||
| Reepicheep |
If you want a faired bike, seems like it would be a lot cooler to buy the 1125 and then buy an aftermarket fairing for it. You get the style and color you want, and pay for it just if you want it. It puts the cool factor through the roof as well. Not only do you have a fairly rare bike, you have a custom (and great looking custom) version of it. | ||
| Puzzled |
Teddagreek I'm with you on the fairing. I have contacted several companies searching for one. The ones that are commonly found on the net require you to loose the factory fairing or convert to some other model nose, not for me. I want the fairings shown in the Buell race bike pictures, for a street bike! | ||
| Brad1445 |
As far as I can tell Buell *IS* catering to their customers. I guess that means me even after five new ones. I know of no one that asked for a bike that looks like this, a naked yes! A Naked with pods hell no. Thats is not a naked bike that is what was asked for.} | ||
| Chameleon |
Where would you have put the radiator(s)? | ||
| Madav8tr |
Well, if you wanted to put a front mounted radiator on it you couldn't put it down low because of the clearance to the wheel(and exhaust) and you can't put it up high because it would interfere with the air intake. Maybe a long thin rad(needed to facilitate mounting of the oil cooler) at the 1/2 way point but it would stick out farther than the pods do and be highly susceptible to damage. That leaves side mounted as the next option. No real room to mount them like the RC51 and basically flush with the frame because of the frame design and it's relation to the engine......so what other options are there? Smaller radiators that get less air and work worse than the ones we have? Screw that, I am pretty sure Eric knew the deal when he designed the 1125 and the pods on the sides. He did the best he could do with the limitations he has with the frame, frame geometry and exhaust location. Take a good long look at the bike and see for yourself what kind of room he had to work with. He could have designed a whole new chassis but it wouldn't fit with design goals and performance would suffer. As for a full faired bike, when was the last fully faired Buell? You don't have to have full fairings to have a sportbike and if you want one, go buy a fairing for it. | ||
| Elvis |
What happened to the race kit mentioned here? http://www.visordown.com/motorcyclenews/view/buell _launch_1125r_race_kit/5096.html  Was there any mention of it at the meeting? Can any dealers (or anyone else) comment? Did they just not want to detract from the 1125CR debut? | ||
| Madav8tr |
That lower looks like warmed over sh*t anyway. It looks like the damn thing was sourced off of a spare racebike in the back of someone's garage and bolted on. | ||
| Ccryder |
Brad: I guess you want Erik to put form before function? That's what would be necessary to eliminate the pods (Unless you know a way around the laws of thermodynamics). Even the naked part of naked is relative. W/o any protection then someone (I'm sure) would complain: "Oh no, with a bike as fast as this, the wind is too strong w/o some protection!!!" Who was it that said: "You can please some of the people all of the time but......" you get my point. Well one of our 25r riders has the lowers on his 25r and it looks (IMHO) pretty darn good (Jpfive I think). So Buell left you out again. Hmm, just ride one of the other bikes in your stable to relieve all this stress that seems to follow you. In the mean time, I'm heading out for a nice sunset ride in the TN hills on my fine running 1125r(t). Time2Ride | ||
| Brad1445 |
Why do people think if it works it has to be ugly? You really need to raise your expectations a few notches because I'm here to tell ya, YOU CAN HAVE BOTH. | ||
| Jpfive |
I'm not the one with lowers... Jack | ||
| Ccryder |
Sorry Jack. I know I saw an 1125r with lowers and even the comment that there was clearance for the side stand. Hmm, maybe I do need to cut back on the coffee and get some more sleep instead.......... | ||
| P_squared |
Bob has the Catalyst Racing lower on his & it has the cutout for the kickstand. http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/290 431/378849.html Already asked him for closeup pics, parts list & any helpful hints from his install in preparationg of my "winter" project. | ||
| Bob_thompson |
I do not know if this is the one people saw or not but I did the Catalyst lowers recently. Not strictly a bolt on because I needed to fabricate a mounting system in which I used Dzus fastners to make it easy on and off. And yes it comes with the cutout for the kickstand. Not perfect as factory but I'm satisfied with the results. I really like full faired bikes as my profile shows. Bob T.  | ||
| Ccryder |
Thanks, I'm not going crazy, just have CRS. (Message edited by ccryder on July 24, 2008) | ||
| Bob_thompson |
Kickstand cutout, Dzus fastners and tail light.  | ||
| Puzzled |
Bob_thompson any chance of you doing a write up on your install along with some pictures and tips? I like it!   | ||
| Madav8tr |
Bob, the lowers on your bike look great. Are they fluid retaining pieces? That set-up looks 10X better than that cobbled together "kit" crap. | ||
| Bob_thompson |
Charles(Madav8tr), thanks for the kind words and yes the lower is supposed to retain fluids for racing purposes but I do not know how well it would work with the sidestand cutout. Mike(Puzzled), I'll try and get some pictures the next time I remove the lowers which will probably be when I go in for the recall for the trans. | ||
| Palerider |
Bob I think the lowers look great. Do you notice any more heat than usual coming back to you? It should also keep some of the road debris off the front of the engine area. My interest was piqued by your tailight-license plate setup as well. It looks good and clean. Is it a kit or did you fabricate it? I couldn't see that well from the pictures. | ||
| Bob_thompson |
Brian(Palerider), No more heat then usual and maybe less as the airstream around the lowers seems to catch me in the legs better. I also insulated the pipes to keep them from affecting the paint on the lowers. Tail light is one piece 18 ga. aluminum I fabricated to cover the original wiring holes and bolt up to the original bolt holes. Hard to see but I also added two tubular led red lights on each side of the stocker. Look close. Thanks again for the kind words. | ||
| Bob_thompson |
UPDATE: for anybody interested: Here are some pictures and a little explaination of what I did to install the Catalyst lowers on my 1125. Fairly simple really but everything was hand fit with the lowers temporarily in place on the bike. Remember this was a budget installation. Parts layout is in the first picture. All pieces were made from 1"x 1/8 " aluminum strap from Home Depot. Notice the Dzus fastner I got from McMaster/Carr Also notice the shortened (new) exhaust pipe guard. I had to make that after the front part of the stock piece was touching the fairing causing the paint to get very hot. Now there is clearence. Picture three shows how the front and rear of the fairing is pretty concave. At the rear I had to cut some away (picture 3) to fit over the muffler. It was very tight and I did not want to try and stretch it possibly cracking it. It should still retain oil. Picture four shows the kickstand cutout. I took off just a little (maybe 1/4" most of the length to completely clear the kickstand when deploying and retracting. Picture five shows the front bracket in place on the right side. This was made with a slight curve to form fit the radiator scoops and two small right angle brackets to bolt to the lower scoop bolts and pop riveted to the longer curved piece. Picture six shows the rear strap secured to the round boss just behind the front drive pulley. Picture seven is the right side bracket secured to a lower case bolt. Note again: all brackets are hand fit with the fairing in place to work properly. I made some more then once. And finally picture eight shows the new heat guard over the stocker for size comparison. The front part is where it was touching the fairing. Pipes are now black heat tape wrapped from Summit racing. I hope the pictures are in the proper order. If not I'm sure you can figure it out. Last thing was having it painted after ALL fitting was workable for easy on and off for maintenance and the reason for the Dzus fastners. If I can further clarify anything please let me know. Bob         |
