| Author | Message | ||
     Thespive |
So I was comparing a CityX to an 1125CR to an 1125 and was wondering if I have uncovered a mistake. The 1125R is listed with a 78.6-in overall length, but the CR was listed at 81.3-in in overall length. Correct me if I am wrong, but I just don't see that there should be a difference between the two. Also interesting is he CR's increased ground clearance over the R (5.43 vs. 4.50) and the CityX (4.35), but the seat height is the same. Hmmmmm, doesn't sound right. I do like the idea of more height on a naked bike, its one of the things that endeared me to the CityX in the first place - great to see over all those cars on the freeway. And more ground clearance makes proper curb hopping hoonage possible. --Sean | ||
| Xl1200r |
Sean, I spotted these errors before as well, and I'm convinced they are typos. The CR does have a slightly longer swingarm in the name of a tenth of an inch or so, but the overall length of both bikes is limited by the wheels since the farirings or tails on either model doesn't extend out further than the tires do. Of course, the typo could also be that the CR has radically different front-end geometry to create that extra length, but I don't think this is the case. | ||
| Court |
We went through this with the 2008 introduction and if you want to SEND me the errors you find I can get them into the system for rapid review and correction. Badwebbers were VERY helpful in correcting stuff during the 2008 intro. It's really tough to have all that numerical info which invariably arrives late and is entered by a person who'd not catch a 2" difference.\ Amazing to me is how Buell can respond so quickly. Let me know what you find. Court | ||
| Naiguy |
the specs say its shorter than my XT by 10 inches but the wheel base on the XT is 53.9 and the CR is 54.5 interesting. | ||
| Arillius13 |
....edit.... (Message edited by arillius13 on July 28, 2008) | ||
| Mainstreamer |
"Amazing to me is how Buell can be so careless" Fixed it for you Court. | ||
| Court |
Actually you didn;t, you just made a snide and kinda smartass remark and claimed to have fixed it. This is what I call "Internet Intellectual". It's the mindset, so prevalent in America, that there is no need to do anything constructive or to help as long as you can blurt out some wise crack and insult something. It's part of the reaons the whiz kids in high school are failing tests at record rates and can't solve simple problems. Here . . . try this exercise. This is something I am working on today. (You may have wondered how we derive the "sag" in those overhead powerlines) . Take 15 minutes and see if you can spot the intention error I've placed in the equation.  (Message edited by court on July 28, 2008) | ||
| Ikeman |
Naiguy - check how far the top case extends past the rear wheel on your XT. They're talking overall length not wheelbase. | ||
| Boltrider |
Hey Court, I don't see an F(x) term anywhere, just the x^n term at the end. Edit: Actually that's not it. I think it's the fact that there's no F sub 2 on the left-hand side. (Message edited by boltrider on July 28, 2008) (Message edited by boltrider on July 28, 2008) (Message edited by boltrider on July 28, 2008) | ||
| Mainstreamer |
No Court, I won't engage in your intellectual war. I've owned 2 Buells in the past and will probably own another in the future, after the 1125 is sorted. It's a love/hate relationship I have with Buell. Most unreliable modern bike I've owned, also one of the most engaging. My hat is off to those on this board who make an honest effort to do the work that should have been done by the factory before release of the product. | ||
| Xnr |
court ... why a semi-colon after the beta | ||
| Chadhargis |
Court....translate that equasion from Egyption writing to English so I can read it. LOL!  I think the number one thing I love about Buells is that they are so in touch with their customers. When I had a BMW that surged, I read countless reports of customers with surging bikes, yet BMW said it didn't exist. At least Buell releases fixes to the problem, or corrects it in the next model year. | ||
| Mainstreamer |
Shame on BMW for nor acknowledging a problem Chad. Shame on Buell for releasing a product that was not ready for prime time. that's not the way to win the hearts and minds on new customers or in some situations, keep existing sheep in the flock. | ||
| P_squared |
Who said it wasn't ready for "prime time?" I've had no major issues with mine. I ride it everyday. Is it "perfect" at EVERYTHING? No. Does it put a huge $h!t eating grin on my face? EVERY time. Since I've had it, it's had the reflash & the 5th gear safety recall. I rode it just fine before & after those were done. YMMV and my view is purely my own. I don't typically have a need to be in 1st gear below 4k, so the surging/bucking problems a lot have reported haven't really phased me. As for the heat, doesn't seem to be anymore than the X1 or M2. My battery "died" once, and I believe that was operator error due to how I shut it down the night before. Hasn't done it since & I have left it off the charger for extended periods. My left rear turn signal went out & I replaced with aftermarket LEDs. I'm not a kool-aid drinker, but I've gotta say that BMC has been more forthcoming & attentive than any other MC manufacturer I've dealt with previously. Now if we could just get that attitude in the dealerships. | ||
| Madav8tr |
Uhh, this topic happened to be about a possible grammatical error regarding the spec's listed for the CR. If you want to complain about your 1125R because it isn't perfect(no bike is but that beside the point I guess) there is an appropriate thread to do so. The error listed on this page has nothing to do with Buell releasing a bike that, in your opinion, wasn't ready to be released. | ||
| Naiguy |
ikeman.....i figured that but i was under the impression that shorter wheel base bikes turned better and that the inline four guys always had an advantage over the v twin guys cause their bikes where shorter wheel base. | ||
| Madav8tr |
The inline 4 guys always had an advantage over the Vtwin guys because Vtwins are heavier and make less power  | ||
| Naiguy |
not power........ handling?  http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1274303041295143867&q=supermoto++vs+street+bike&ei=xFiOSJ6XCI3CqAOvrqDRCA (Message edited by naiguy on July 28, 2008) | ||
| Not_purple_s2 |
PLEASE not another  thread. Back to the original topic... Has the website been corrected? I'm seeing the same seat height, basically the same wheelbase, but more ground clearance and overall length for the 1125CR. | ||
| Brad1445 |
Madav8tr ---- If you want to complain about your 1125R because it isn't perfect(no bike is but that beside the point I guess) I have owned many many PERFECT bikes. Why do people think this is impossible a few of these flawless bikes were even Buells, so yes unlike Santa, there is such a thing as a perfect bike. | ||
| Mainstreamer |
"Uhh, this topic happened to be about a possible grammatical error regarding the spec's listed for the CR. If you want to complain about your 1125R because it isn't perfect(no bike is but that beside the point I guess) there is an appropriate thread to do so." Hahaha, Where are the threads for: A. Courts intellectual change B. Chadhargis comments on BMW C. P squared 1125r \cliparttestimonial I'm going to take my meds now, you all have another sip.  AND I passed a 1124R last week on the Dragon with my Daytona675, so there!!!! | ||
| Madav8tr |
"I have owned many many PERFECT bikes." No you haven't. You may have owned bikes that you felt were sufficient or more than adequate but not "perfect". If "perfect" existed there wouldn't be an aftermarket for exhaust, or suspension or even cosmetic items but there is. All motorcycles sold in this country are victims to constraints either from the manufacturer with lower dollar parts or the EPA with restrictions placed on them for whatever reason. The best you have had is the best you know but I assure their is much better out there. Take any performance motorcycle and I guarantee you that if it is stock, there are tons of ways to make it better and faster. Some bikes are better out of the box than others but they all suffer from their own set of issues. | ||
| Madav8tr |
"Hahaha, Where are the threads for: A. Courts intellectual change B. Chadhargis comments on BMW C. P squared 1125r \cliparttestimonial" Pretty sure until your attempt to flame the brand those comments didn't exist in this thread. BTW, what is this "1124R" you speak of? (Message edited by madav8tr on July 28, 2008) | ||
| Not_purple_s2 |
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| Thespive |
STOP HIJACKING MY POST. BTW, after 8,000-miles on my XB9SX, I have had ZERO warranty issues, so I would say my bike is the MOST reliable modern bike I have ever owned. Anyway, back to helping Buell fix the specs... --Sean | ||
| Dbird29 |
Hahaha, Where are the threads for: A. Courts intellectual change B. Chadhargis comments on BMW C. P squared 1125r \cliparttestimonial You forgot D. Brad1445's rant about pods. E. Mainstreamer's coming up short | ||
| Thespive |
Court - e-mail sent, here is what I believe is incorrect: - CR listed with an overall length of 81.3-in (78.6-in for 1125R) - CR listed with a ground clearance of 5.43-in (4.5-in listed for 1125R) - CR listed with a wheelbase of 54.5-in (1125R listed at 54.6, I thought CR was the one fractionally longer) - CR listed with a 6-bulb headlamp, identical entry to 1125R, despite different headlight design Thanks for listening, --Sean | ||
| Court |
Sean: Got it and sent it on for review this morning. Thanks, Court | ||
| Arillius13 |
did anyone notice that it says the CR is over an inch wider also? (Message edited by arillius13 on July 29, 2008) | ||
| Not_purple_s2 |
Most likely because of the handlebars. |
