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Spike
Posted on Monday, June 30, 2008 - 10:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


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If you want mileage, a scooter is the way to go. I get nearly 90mpg on the scoot.




What if I want mileage and ~100hp?

Suggesting a scooter for the guys that don't want the fuel mileage of a family sedan is about like suggesting you get a 1098 to satisfy your need for a high power v-twin. It just doesn't fit.
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Chadhargis
Posted on Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 03:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oooooh! I'd LOVE to have a 1098. If I stretch real good, it fits just fine! : )

Anyone got $17,000 they want to give me?
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Usmoto
Posted on Wednesday, July 02, 2008 - 05:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm an avid Buell fan and have been since the first day they hit the market. I had an XB until late last year when I had to sell it to pay a debt.

I am going to buy the 1125 but just not yet. I tend to wait to buy a new vehicle until it has been on the market a year or two. By that time most or all of the "bugs" usually associated with new vehicles have been worked out.

I thought that nothing could top the XB when it came out so I was completely stunned when the 1125 came. I think Buell has really outdone themselves with it.

Oh well, I'll just wait to see what happens in '09. Thank you to everyone for all of the info. I've never seen anywhere in any other forum where a person can get so much info about a bike. You guys are awesome.

USA BABY!!
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Gtmg
Posted on Wednesday, July 02, 2008 - 09:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There is no reason not to expect at least high 30's low 40's on a bike like this. As a matter of fact with the light weight I would expect mid 40's. Read some other forums...if a 650 lb Concours can get over 37 I think this bike should be able to make it as well. It is an area that Buell needs to work on in the next revision.
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Jaimec
Posted on Wednesday, July 02, 2008 - 09:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've pointed out before that my 850 lbs, 1200cc BMW K1200LT regularly returns mileage in the mid to high 40's. On one long highway run from Watkins Glen, NY to Long Island, NY I averaged 52 mpg. That was 85% on cruise control at 70 mph.
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Chadhargis
Posted on Sunday, July 06, 2008 - 10:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Keep in mind that the LT isn't putting down as much HP, is an inline four which means it has smaller cylinders for a more complete burn, and it's probably geared pretty high too.

I'm betting if you tuned the 1125 for low to mid range RPM, and geared it high as hell, it would get much better mileage, but magazine reviews that read, "The bike accelerates like it's towing a ships anchor, is geared too tall, has no drive out of corners, and a pitiful top end as it won't redline in top gear....but it gets 50mpg" ain't gonna sell many bikes.

It's a sport bike. It's made to have the snot ridden out of it. Heck, my little 600 gets in the 20's when I'm at the track. Little beast sucks the fuel when I'm lapping at 12,000+ rpm, and if I could get more power out of it and burn more fuel doing it. I would.

As Tim Allen would say...."More Power!!"
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Brad1445
Posted on Sunday, July 06, 2008 - 10:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

08 Hayabusa gives 45 average mpg.

I4 - 1340cc - 172 rwhp

go figure
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Gtmg
Posted on Sunday, July 06, 2008 - 11:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Exactly Brad. There are too many comparable bikes getting dramatically better mileage. I am tired of people making excuses for the mpg of this bike. Yes it is a fun bike that handles well but... Buell needs to put out bikes that have the whole show. Buells are known for getting great mileage and having great handling. No reason the first superbike can't keep this up.
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Bearly
Posted on Monday, July 07, 2008 - 12:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

wow
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Monday, July 07, 2008 - 12:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I suspect the mileage will improve with future maps and engine development.

How does the 1125R compare to other twins?

I know the RC51 and TL1000R sucked fuel.

The 1098 has been getting low to mid 30's.

I agree that the 1125R mileage doesn't compare to an IL4, but let's compare apples to apples.
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Oddball
Posted on Monday, July 07, 2008 - 03:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It is a sport twin thing it seems. That was one of the complaints against the VTR when it came out in 97. Fuel light usually comes on at 100 miles. Perhaps if the 1125 was a v4 it could have greater mpg equally I4's? It must be a greater fuel mixture needed to keep flame propagation across a broad piston and not lean it out.

The best control a rider has on it is his throttle hand. Ride like granny on a sunday morning drive and get the best mileage. Ride like Ghost Rider with your hair on fire and keep that credit card handy.
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Madav8tr
Posted on Monday, July 07, 2008 - 08:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My 1125 is no worse than my old Duc 996 when it comes to fuel efficiency and it's a lot better than either of my RC51's. Low 30's and mid 20's were the norm on the RC's, the harder I rode them, the worse they did. I find it interesting that the new 'Busa is claiming such high mileage figures too. I got less than 40mpg on my '05 Busa.
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Spectrum
Posted on Monday, July 07, 2008 - 09:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My 11 gets low 30's around town riding in granny mode. Gets mid to high 30's when I get out of town for spirited rides.
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Brad1445
Posted on Monday, July 07, 2008 - 09:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This is my second Busa I had an 04, In fact of all the bikes I have ever owned of all makes I don't think I have ever had anything deliver less than 40mpg. My typical riding is exploiting Colorado's hairpin turns. Climbng a pass, WOT then brake turn the bike WOT brake turn the bike repeat over and over.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Monday, July 07, 2008 - 09:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The best mileage I have ever gotten was banging off the rev limiter for 170 miles in hard twisties. The difference was that it wasn't 90-110MPH blasts for extended periods of time.

If you ride fast (80MPH+) and you are not light 150-175lbs, you will get worse gas mileage.

A rider weighing 250 riding a Super Chicken at 100MPH will get sucko gas mileage. Same rider on an IL4 will get better gas mileage.
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Madav8tr
Posted on Monday, July 07, 2008 - 09:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, maybe it's the thin mountain air but fuel consumption has been a source of concern for every 'Busa owner I know. Some days, I would see low 30's on mine and a good friend that had an 03 Busa would get about the same. In reality, it doesn't matter, because this isn't Labusas.
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Chadhargis
Posted on Monday, July 07, 2008 - 11:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Superhawks are notorious for bad fuel mileage. They have HUGE carbs, and they suck fuel. 100 miles till you're nearly pushing it.

BUT....it's a 1000cc sport twin. It's SUPPOSED to suck fuel.

I wouldn't say that Buell is know for "great fuel mileage". To the general public...Buell is known as sporty bikes with a "Harley" engine.

They finally have a legitimate sportbike motor. YEAH!! 20mpg...10mpg....I don't care. Just shoehorn it in a Ulysses and I'll shred Pirellis with it! : )
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Dtinnan
Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 09:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

someone else wrote:"There is no reason not to expect at least high 30's low 40's on a bike like this. As a matter of fact with the light weight I would expect mid 40's."

i wish i could get high 30's outta my 1125!! no matter how or where i drive it, i get bout 32 miles per gallon!! i got 8700 miles on it so i think thats gonna be about the standard
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Zac4mac
Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 12:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rider weight is an oft overlooked point.
I weigh maybe 165 if me and my gear is wet...
I've been running my Corsas at 42 psi.

Forgot to drop the psi at Road America.
"Parade Lap" I saw 103mph, got further into the pitchforks than ever, very close to the knife-edge.
No slip front or rear, front 8 bikes(I was 5 or 6) ran 2 very brisk laps.
I had little pill-bugs of rubber all over both tires afterwards, more on the back.

I see no reason to drop pressure, as it is fine for handling and great for my tire and fuel mileage.

6100 miles on first rear OEM Corsa, 11,200 on the OEM front and it's fine.
5100 miles on rear #2, squaring off but still more miles left.
37 mpg constant, reset 1500 miles back and it's back at 37.

Zack
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 01:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

08 Hayabusa gives 45 average mpg.

then you don't ride it like it should be ridden...I have a friend that gets mid-thirties on his Busa consistently.
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Brad1445
Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 01:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

well that sounds scientific, thanks.

you have no idea how off your guess is, come find out a day in the life of Brad.

Today WED normal weekday, running from here to there work related. I hit one 140, and several 130's. I'm the guy that will get off a highway exit just so I can get back on WOT. SeaLevel does 9.5 1/4 miles and I eat that up like a drug always wanting more. Three tickets (NOT proud) in the last 60 days.

You have no idea....
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Burt_munro
Posted on Friday, July 11, 2008 - 12:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Zac4Mac.....

Question about the Track Ride at Road America last weekend. I work as a Tech Inspector/Grid Marshall for CCS/ASRA. Didn't you guys have someone go down on the 2nd lap? Was it someone just acting silly, riding over their head? I believe they had to send out an ambulance. Just curious - we never heard the complete story.

Asking about other Twins mileage?

I ride a 2003 BMW R1100S. My last trip to Road America I was fully loaded - 1 up and kept it between 70-75 mph. I averaged 42mpg over the 1000 mile trip. If I keep it at about 80mph it drops to about 40mpg.
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Zac4mac
Posted on Friday, July 11, 2008 - 04:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

One of our Colorado guys brought his son with him to Homecoming.
Rode out the scenic route on his Uly, son on the Blast.
He only had a few weeks on his new learner's permit and was a little cocky.

At RA, he got a little wild in the second lap, went wide and focused on the edge, worrying about the gravel.
A Buell goes where you look, and he wound up in the gravel, tumbling.

Broke his collarbone, scuffed his pride and wadded the Blast pretty good.
The kid got a plane ride home, pop rode home solo and the Blast hitched a ride home in a truck.

All-in-all a cheap lesson in humility and bikemanship, even tho it cost us all our third lap around the track.

Z

(Message edited by zac4mac on July 11, 2008)
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Jspeed
Posted on Sunday, July 20, 2008 - 11:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yea....I thought I'd drop my 2 cents in here. Anyways, I'm a sales manager for Zylstra HD and Buell in the Chicago land area. But I've road sport bikes since I was 16. I haven't seen better than 28 m.p.g. on the readout.... But I've owned Yamahas FZ-6, r-1, Honda's CBR 900 and Superhawk, and the entire Suzuki lineup. I don't think I've ever seen super impressive gas mileage out of any of them. Maybe I should try riding slow ( but I've got my harleys for anything under 12omph. As for the remarks about the BMW LT1200, I road won from tucson to phoenix and it got great gas mileage, even at speeds around 100. But I'm pretty sure it makes about 15 foot pounds of torgue and was as much fun to ride as an automatic scooter. Ever here the saying, "...apples to oranges" well a BMW LT1200 is to an 1125R is like comparing APPLES TO STEAK!
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Jspeed
Posted on Sunday, July 20, 2008 - 11:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

WHEN I SAY I HAVEN'T SEEN BETTER THAN 28 M.P.G ON THE READOUT I'M TALKING ABOUT ON THE 1125R
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Chadhargis
Posted on Monday, July 21, 2008 - 11:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

Ever here the saying, "...apples to oranges" well a BMW LT1200 is to an 1125R is like comparing APPLES TO STEAK!




LOL! True!!
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Deexn1125r
Posted on Monday, July 21, 2008 - 01:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't think I have ever bought a bike for gas mileage. I have played around on it getting anywhere from 130 to under 100 miles on a tank. And it doesn't matter to me it sucks to have the high gas prices but if i was worried about it I would have gotten a hybrid or a moped.
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Ccryder
Posted on Monday, July 21, 2008 - 02:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Chad:

Which one is the steak ;+}?
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Jsimpkins
Posted on Monday, July 21, 2008 - 07:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

48mpg on the ole' X1 no matter how I ride it.

j
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Chadhargis
Posted on Monday, July 21, 2008 - 08:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The LT is the steak. Big, heavy, meaty, and slow (like blood through clogged ateries). The Buell is the apple. Light, hearty, and good for you. : )
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